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Has this '''ever''' been true? The only events I've seen were tantruming prisoners '''destroying''' their restraints, but that's just because the restraint was a building, so a chain wouldn't be any stronger than a rope (and not even the metal would matter - tin, steel, and adamantine would be equally vulnerable). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:53, 28 May 2010 (UTC) | Has this '''ever''' been true? The only events I've seen were tantruming prisoners '''destroying''' their restraints, but that's just because the restraint was a building, so a chain wouldn't be any stronger than a rope (and not even the metal would matter - tin, steel, and adamantine would be equally vulnerable). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:53, 28 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I've only has one dwarf tantrum while chained to a copper chain, and he never broke it, however, i cannot verify the rope part myself. Assuming, it is possible to wear out a rope much much faster than a chain, so if this was realistic, i'd assume a rope would break on the 4th or 5th guy chained to it. So it may need verification. Most of everyone says it can break on the forums, so me and Matt went by that. --[[User:Hugna|Hugna]] 21:42, 28 May 2010 (UTC) | ::I've only has one dwarf tantrum while chained to a copper chain, and he never broke it, however, i cannot verify the rope part myself. Assuming, it is possible to wear out a rope much much faster than a chain, so if this was realistic, i'd assume a rope would break on the 4th or 5th guy chained to it. So it may need verification. Most of everyone says it can break on the forums, so me and Matt went by that. --[[User:Hugna|Hugna]] 21:42, 28 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| + | "providing luxurious accomodations, golden chains..." would a dwarf ever admire the chain it's attached to? [[User:XB-70|XB-70]] 23:04, 7 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
| + | :Surprisingly, yes, a dwarf can and does admire the chain it's attached to, particularly if it is a nice gold one encrusted with gems and bone and such. --[[User:MisterB777|MisterB777]] 00:12, 8 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
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| + | == Prisoners dying of dehydration? == | ||
| + | In my current fort I've had at least two prisoner dwarfs die of thirst, and not for lack of liquids. I've got a couple wells, plentiful buckets, and a booze stockpile in the jail cell. | ||
| + | <br /><br />mk: me too, with .14 -- even designating someone who likes helping others to be in a burrow that includes only a well, a stockpile of buckets and the prison didn't help: the "maid" just stood in the hall until the prisoner died of thirst. | ||
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| + | == Booze/food stockpile == | ||
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| + | I'm trying to set up booze and food stockpiles inside the jail and have one of each in every cell, but instead of bringing a barrel of booze and a stack of my masterfully-cooked meals, the dwarves just put a single empty barrel on the stockpile square. What am I doing wrong?<small>– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:75.22.73.127|75.22.73.127]]</small> | ||
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| + | :Maybe use [[Stockpile#Take_from_a_stockpile|Take from a stockpile]]? You'll normally get a much quicker response at the official forums at http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=7.0 than here. [[User:Bognor|Bognor]] 09:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::It's one of those "minor" glitchy things - the dwarves look at your single-square stockpile, see that it should have a barrel on it (to hold stuff, don't'cha know), and bring an empty barrel. Now that it's full with a barrel, they won't bring a barrel of booze. And I think the meals won't fit in a barrel either. Solution? Two two-square stockpiles per cell, one of which holds only booze (and up to two barrels), and the other holds only food (and no barrels). --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 15:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 18:23, 8 December 2011
No talk about chains?[edit]
I know ropes are part of restraints, but chains are too. I don't see them inside it all. Oh and nice work. Looks better than my version. --Hugna 19:51, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- "The best choice of restraint is therefore a good strong metal chain." They're there. :P --DeMatt 19:55, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- I realized the second i looked below cages. Another stupid action by me i guess. Sorry. --Hugna 19:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Chains versus Ropes[edit]
- "Ropes, being made of plant fiber and therefore weaker than metal chains, can sometimes be broken by strong dwarves, thus letting them escape and wreak more havoc."
Has this ever been true? The only events I've seen were tantruming prisoners destroying their restraints, but that's just because the restraint was a building, so a chain wouldn't be any stronger than a rope (and not even the metal would matter - tin, steel, and adamantine would be equally vulnerable). --Quietust 20:53, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- I've only has one dwarf tantrum while chained to a copper chain, and he never broke it, however, i cannot verify the rope part myself. Assuming, it is possible to wear out a rope much much faster than a chain, so if this was realistic, i'd assume a rope would break on the 4th or 5th guy chained to it. So it may need verification. Most of everyone says it can break on the forums, so me and Matt went by that. --Hugna 21:42, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
"providing luxurious accomodations, golden chains..." would a dwarf ever admire the chain it's attached to? XB-70 23:04, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- Surprisingly, yes, a dwarf can and does admire the chain it's attached to, particularly if it is a nice gold one encrusted with gems and bone and such. --MisterB777 00:12, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Prisoners dying of dehydration?[edit]
In my current fort I've had at least two prisoner dwarfs die of thirst, and not for lack of liquids. I've got a couple wells, plentiful buckets, and a booze stockpile in the jail cell.
mk: me too, with .14 -- even designating someone who likes helping others to be in a burrow that includes only a well, a stockpile of buckets and the prison didn't help: the "maid" just stood in the hall until the prisoner died of thirst.
Booze/food stockpile[edit]
I'm trying to set up booze and food stockpiles inside the jail and have one of each in every cell, but instead of bringing a barrel of booze and a stack of my masterfully-cooked meals, the dwarves just put a single empty barrel on the stockpile square. What am I doing wrong?– unsigned comment by 75.22.73.127
- Maybe use Take from a stockpile? You'll normally get a much quicker response at the official forums at http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=7.0 than here. Bognor 09:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- It's one of those "minor" glitchy things - the dwarves look at your single-square stockpile, see that it should have a barrel on it (to hold stuff, don't'cha know), and bring an empty barrel. Now that it's full with a barrel, they won't bring a barrel of booze. And I think the meals won't fit in a barrel either. Solution? Two two-square stockpiles per cell, one of which holds only booze (and up to two barrels), and the other holds only food (and no barrels). --DeMatt 15:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)