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My Tax Collector has a [happy] thought "Was happy to have pleased a noble". The Count has a [happy] thought "Was pleased that the tax collection went smoothly". --[[User:Another|Another]] 13:01, 25 November 2007 (EST) | My Tax Collector has a [happy] thought "Was happy to have pleased a noble". The Count has a [happy] thought "Was pleased that the tax collection went smoothly". --[[User:Another|Another]] 13:01, 25 November 2007 (EST) | ||
+ | =Trigger Condition= | ||
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− | + | {| class="wikitable" | |
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! Lowest Values Reported | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Current Population: | ||
+ | | 13 | ||
+ | | [[User:Coelocanth|Coelocanth]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | max. population fort had before arrival: | ||
+ | | 80 | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Created [[Wealth]]: | ||
+ | | 330,339 | ||
+ | | Cap'n Mayday, [[User:Nist Akath|Nist Akath]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Exported Wealth: | ||
+ | | 11,560 | ||
+ | | [[User:MightyMooquack|MightyMooquack]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Imported Wealth: | ||
+ | | 16,396 | ||
+ | | [[User:Gibbonofdoom|Gibbonofdoom]] | ||
+ | |} | ||
I had a tax collector arrive together with the baron, baroness and hammerer, population of 13 due to bronze colossus encounter. Fortress type is city (it doesn't decrease with population loss) [[User:Coelocanth|Coelocanth]] 22:38, 2 December 2007 (EST) | I had a tax collector arrive together with the baron, baroness and hammerer, population of 13 due to bronze colossus encounter. Fortress type is city (it doesn't decrease with population loss) [[User:Coelocanth|Coelocanth]] 22:38, 2 December 2007 (EST) | ||
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I have: | I have: | ||
− | 388732 imported wealth | + | 388732 imported wealth |
− | 67325 exported wealth | + | 67325 exported wealth |
− | 506478 created wealth | + | 506478 created wealth |
− | 4336 weapons | + | 4336 weapons |
− | 45840 armor and garb | + | 45840 armor and garb |
− | 65710 furniture | + | 65710 furniture |
− | 227955 other objects | + | 227955 other objects |
− | 74200 architecture | + | 74200 architecture |
− | 37877 Displayed | + | 37877 Displayed |
− | 50560 held/worn. | + | 50560 held/worn. |
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I just got the tax collector with a couple of other nobles, its 1054 Mid-Spring. | I just got the tax collector with a couple of other nobles, its 1054 Mid-Spring. | ||
My pop is 99 now. | My pop is 99 now. | ||
− | Created wealth: 763,020 | + | Created wealth: 763,020 |
− | Imported Wealth: 221,438 | + | Imported Wealth: 221,438 |
− | Exported Wealth: 21,747 | + | Exported Wealth: 21,747 |
− | Hope this helps! | + | Hope this helps! [[User:Marcsterix|Marcsterix]] |
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I just got a tax collector, hammerer, count (and consort), and philosopher. It is Mid-Spring of 1058. My Created Wealth = 1431886, Exported = 29462, Imported = 388973. Population = 124 after the migration wave that included the nobles (111 before migration wave). [[User:Frond|Frond]] 22:05, 30 January 2008 (EST) | I just got a tax collector, hammerer, count (and consort), and philosopher. It is Mid-Spring of 1058. My Created Wealth = 1431886, Exported = 29462, Imported = 388973. Population = 124 after the migration wave that included the nobles (111 before migration wave). [[User:Frond|Frond]] 22:05, 30 January 2008 (EST) | ||
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I just got the Tax Collector, Hammerer and Baroness in the year 1056, Mid-Spring | I just got the Tax Collector, Hammerer and Baroness in the year 1056, Mid-Spring | ||
Population: ''89'' Created Wealth: ''398852'' Imported Wealth ''195743'' Exported Wealth: ''16396'' --[[User:Gibbonofdoom|Gibbonofdoom]] 10:21, 12 February 2008 (EST) | Population: ''89'' Created Wealth: ''398852'' Imported Wealth ''195743'' Exported Wealth: ''16396'' --[[User:Gibbonofdoom|Gibbonofdoom]] 10:21, 12 February 2008 (EST) | ||
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+ | Another data point. I just got a tax collector, hammerer, and baroness on 12th Slate, 1055, Mid-Spring. Population: ''142'' Created Wealth: ''747376'' Imported Wealth: ''476282'' Exported Wealth: ''11560'' —[[User:MightyMooquack|MightyMooquack]] 00:39, 14 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
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+ | I added a table above. If you've seen a tax collector appear at lower values, please update. (Maybe this should be on the main page?) --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 18:33, 17 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
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+ | I got the Tax Collector, Hammerer, Baron and Baroness Consort at population '''86'''. (But lots of wealth). --[[User:AlexChurchill|AlexChurchill]] 11:51, 10 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
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+ | Has anyone seen the Tax Collector arrive separately from the Baron? I think the Baron, Tax Collector, and Hammerer all have the same conditions. --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 18:18, 8 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
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+ | =Labors= | ||
+ | What labors will the Tax Collector perform? The first thing my newly-arrived Tax Collector did was "Fill Pond"! Perhaps he's bored because I turned the economy off? -- [[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 14:21, 3 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
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+ | :"Fill Pond" is a job that any dwarf will do, no matter what labors they have enabled. Other jobs like that are Haul Item to Depot and Pull Lever. [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 21:58, 5 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
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+ | == Fort needs to be a barony? == | ||
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+ | I thought that the Tax Collector came at the same time as a Baron, therefore Fort Becomes a Barony on arrival of Tax Collector with Baron. [[User:Shardok|Shardok]] 06:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::Well, my logic there is that the "promoted to barony" message always comes first. But from my experience, yes, you get both ''nobles'' always at the same time. Do players ever get a baron without tax collector or the other way round? We might just as well copy all the conditions from baron over here. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 09:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
+ | :My current fort (v0.28.181.40d) skipped the barony stage entirely. I got a count, hammerer, tax collector, and philosopher all together, along with the "<x> and the surrounding lands have been made a county" message, without ever so much as seeing a baron. Which is odd, because my exported wealth wasn't much of a change from the last year (+2000), and it was already well over 20K before that... --[[Special:Contributions/64.146.135.21|64.146.135.21]] 01:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::Barony -> County is entirely dependent on population, not wealth (that anyone has been able to verify). 80 for Barony, 110 for county. I believe it only checks at the *start* of an immigration wave, so if you went from 70->100 in one wave, then the next wave you'd get a county message with the count (who would have been the baron first if you'd gotten that message). County implies barony conditions are met. (Barony also has a diversity of jobs requirement, so i suppose if you missed that and then satisfied it while satisfying county requirements, you could skip right to county). --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 06:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 21:53, 8 March 2010
I never minted a single coin and still got a Tax Collector in about my 5th year - perhaps the trigger is wealth created or exported? --GameHat
- Moved that from the article, Mr Hat. Anyway, I agree. I never minted a coin, and still got the Tax Collector. Runspotrun 23:34, 18 November 2007 (EST)
My Tax Collector has a [happy] thought "Was happy to have pleased a noble". The Count has a [happy] thought "Was pleased that the tax collection went smoothly". --Another 13:01, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Trigger Condition[edit]
Lowest Values Reported | ||
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Current Population: | 13 | Coelocanth |
max. population fort had before arrival: | 80 | |
Created Wealth: | 330,339 | Cap'n Mayday, Nist Akath |
Exported Wealth: | 11,560 | MightyMooquack |
Imported Wealth: | 16,396 | Gibbonofdoom |
I had a tax collector arrive together with the baron, baroness and hammerer, population of 13 due to bronze colossus encounter. Fortress type is city (it doesn't decrease with population loss) Coelocanth 22:38, 2 December 2007 (EST)
I recently got a fort far enough along to get this noble. I certainly had not minted any coins. What seemed to do it was my population passing 100. He arrived, along with the Baron, Consort and Hammerer in a wave that brought my population from the low 90s up to 115.
I think wealth is also required, passing 100 population brought me only the philosopher in said fort. Has anyone got the tax collector without a baron or vice versa? Coelocanth 17:57, 5 December 2007 (EST)
I just got my baron, collector, consort and hammerer. The year is 1064, my population is 100 on the dot (at the note of the arival of the nobles)
I have:
388732 imported wealth 67325 exported wealth 506478 created wealth 4336 weapons 45840 armor and garb 65710 furniture 227955 other objects 74200 architecture 37877 Displayed 50560 held/worn.
-ellipsis (not sure how to fancy up a signature in here)
It seems that having 100 population is a major factor in getting the economy.
I just got the tax collector with a couple of other nobles, its 1054 Mid-Spring. My pop is 99 now.
Created wealth: 763,020 Imported Wealth: 221,438 Exported Wealth: 21,747
Hope this helps! Marcsterix
I just got a tax collector, hammerer, count (and consort), and philosopher. It is Mid-Spring of 1058. My Created Wealth = 1431886, Exported = 29462, Imported = 388973. Population = 124 after the migration wave that included the nobles (111 before migration wave). Frond 22:05, 30 January 2008 (EST)
I just got the Tax Collector, Hammerer and Baroness in the year 1056, Mid-Spring Population: 89 Created Wealth: 398852 Imported Wealth 195743 Exported Wealth: 16396 --Gibbonofdoom 10:21, 12 February 2008 (EST)
Another data point. I just got a tax collector, hammerer, and baroness on 12th Slate, 1055, Mid-Spring. Population: 142 Created Wealth: 747376 Imported Wealth: 476282 Exported Wealth: 11560 —MightyMooquack 00:39, 14 April 2008 (EDT)
I added a table above. If you've seen a tax collector appear at lower values, please update. (Maybe this should be on the main page?) --Strangething 18:33, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
I got the Tax Collector, Hammerer, Baron and Baroness Consort at population 86. (But lots of wealth). --AlexChurchill 11:51, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
Has anyone seen the Tax Collector arrive separately from the Baron? I think the Baron, Tax Collector, and Hammerer all have the same conditions. --Strangething 18:18, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Labors[edit]
What labors will the Tax Collector perform? The first thing my newly-arrived Tax Collector did was "Fill Pond"! Perhaps he's bored because I turned the economy off? -- Raumkraut 14:21, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
- "Fill Pond" is a job that any dwarf will do, no matter what labors they have enabled. Other jobs like that are Haul Item to Depot and Pull Lever. Bouchart 21:58, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
Fort needs to be a barony?[edit]
I thought that the Tax Collector came at the same time as a Baron, therefore Fort Becomes a Barony on arrival of Tax Collector with Baron. Shardok 06:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, my logic there is that the "promoted to barony" message always comes first. But from my experience, yes, you get both nobles always at the same time. Do players ever get a baron without tax collector or the other way round? We might just as well copy all the conditions from baron over here. --Birthright 09:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- My current fort (v0.28.181.40d) skipped the barony stage entirely. I got a count, hammerer, tax collector, and philosopher all together, along with the "<x> and the surrounding lands have been made a county" message, without ever so much as seeing a baron. Which is odd, because my exported wealth wasn't much of a change from the last year (+2000), and it was already well over 20K before that... --64.146.135.21 01:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Barony -> County is entirely dependent on population, not wealth (that anyone has been able to verify). 80 for Barony, 110 for county. I believe it only checks at the *start* of an immigration wave, so if you went from 70->100 in one wave, then the next wave you'd get a county message with the count (who would have been the baron first if you'd gotten that message). County implies barony conditions are met. (Barony also has a diversity of jobs requirement, so i suppose if you missed that and then satisfied it while satisfying county requirements, you could skip right to county). --Squirrelloid 06:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)