Talk:Kitfox Games

Does this information really belong here on the DF wiki? I get that they're the publisher for the Premium version, but their back catalog (and upcoming releases) have nothing to do with DF and should probably be replaced with a hyperlink to their page on Wikipedia or something. --Quietust (talk) 13:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

When I first heard Kitfox was becoming publisher, I wanted to see who they were, and what they've done before. Having the prices looks weird on a wiki article, but I think Kitfox's other games is something of interest to Dwarf Fortress players. The information on their other games is scattered, requiring users to check multiple sites and do Internet searches to find them all, so it's convenient having them all listed here in one place. We also have an article for Bay 12 Games that lists their other games. I would be interested in reading more about Kitfox like how they got started publishing games, especially in an era when anyone can self publish, and also in the hirings of other employees like Putnam, Mayday, and the artists and musicians. Jecowa (talk) 19:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Kitfox's portfolio is not really relevant to Dwarf Fortress. It's information that should be on their Wikipedia page, not here - it doesn't seem relevant to maintain that information here, especially in a detailed table like that. An article on Kitfox on the DF wiki should ideally explain the parts that are relevant to DF development, and link to the relevant social pages.

DPhKraken (talk) 02:47, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Kitfox's other games are more relevant to understanding Kitfox than Bay 12 Games' games are to it. Dwarf Fortress has been the only game for Bay 12 Games for many years, while Kitfox has lots of other things going on. The most important thing to understanding a games publisher is their games. Kitfox's game list on Wikipedia is very lacking and doesn't even mention who the developers for each game are. Since Kitfox's relationship to Dwarf Fortress is as a publisher, it's helpful to see their experience publishing for other studios. Jecowa (talk) 04:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Caves of Qud release date

Caves of Qud was published 2015-07-15 on Steam and 2018-07-10 on Itch.io. "Early access" is an arbitrary check box on Steam. The game is released when you can pay money to play it. Maybe Caves of Qud is incomplete, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's more complete than Dwarf Fortress. Jecowa (talk) 06:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC) But also, it is misrepresentation to show them as having published it before they even started working them. Jecowa (talk) 06:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Kitfox Games' games' Steam users as of 2024-11-06

title	current	30-day average
Dwarf Fortress	879	934.8
Caves of Qud	421	321.3
Ostranauts	214	207.6
Moon Hunters	13	6.4
Boyfriend Dungeon	20	6.1
The Shrouded Isle	2	3.2
Six Ages: Ride Like the Wind	0	2.3
Six Ages 2: Lights Going Out	0	1.1
Lucifer Within Us	0	0.6
Pupperazzi	1	0.5
Shattered Planet	0	0.4
Fit for a King	0	0.0
*Streets of Fortuna	0	0.0
*Loose Leaf: A Tea Witch Simulator	0	0.0

* = upcoming game. Looked up their popularities on steamcharts.com. The second- and third-most popular ones are marked as "Early Access Game" on Steam. Jecowa (talk) 05:16, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Itch.io dates

Just a note about dates found on Itch.io– the "Published" date does not appear to mean the date the game was first available for purchase; it seems to indicate the date the webpage for the game was created. Also, as of writing, Boyfriend Dungeon has a "Published" date on Itch.io but no "Release" date listed like other games do, even though the game is clearly available for purchase on Itch.io, so I suspect this value may be entered manually by the publisher. Jecowa (talk) 09:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC)