40d Talk:Coffin

Where to put them

Do I build these on a stockpile, or is the stockpile "next to" where I want to "inter" dwarves?GarrieIrons 20:48, 5 January 2008 (EST)

You build them wherever you want to put your dead. I'm not too sure what stockpile you're talking about. If you have the coffin built prior to dwarven-death, the bloke that has to haul the departed should put them directly into the coffin. I could be wrong, but I personally haven't seen a dwarf moved from graveyard "stockpile" to a coffin, and believe that if a place of burial isn't available upon death, that they won't be buried, simply hauled. I could easily be wrong on this, but that's what my experience showed me, the one time I had a dead dwarf in a graveyard that hadn't started rotting when a coffin was newly built. --Edward 03:17, 6 January 2008 (EST)

I believe he referring to the graveyard stockpile where dead things will be dumped if the do not have use of a coffin. Also note that coffins must be built underground(or in a room?).--Mhyder 12:09, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

I had a dwarf hauled from the graveyard to a coffin just fine (40d) Edenicholas 22:50, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Deceased

OK, so I can build a Tomb and asign it to live citizens.

What about my poor dead woodcutter sitting outside in the dead animal repository... how do I get him appropriately interred?GarrieIrons 20:55, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Open up the q menu and press the key for 'use for burial', r I believe. The 'make tomb' option is just to make the stuck-up nobles happy about their burial arrangements. --Valdemar 21:11, 5 January 2008 (EST)

When said stuck-up noble is dead, deconstruct and dump the stuck-up coffin.--Aykavil 05:59, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Allow Citizens

So I know that if you "q" over the built burial receptacle, you can "Allow Pets" and "Allow Citizens". I understand if you don't want pets beside your dwarves, but what is the "allow citizens" option used for? Turning it off does not seem to affect the ability to bury my dwarves. --Langdon 02:43, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

Neither of these options forbids citizens. The allow pets one will allow a pet or a citizen to be buried there. Rkyeun 14:20, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

I'm guessing that if you turned off allow citizens the coffin could also have outsiders interred. HeWhoIsPale 08:32, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

I'm getting invading goblin-raised dwarves (with goblin names) interred in my caskets. Maybe it's any dwarf belonging to a civ, not just fortress residents. Goblins just get thrown on the rubbish pile. After we kill them, of course. --Jellyfishgreen 11:12, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Style

Bonus points for placing coffins in the wine cellar. Si je meurs je veux qu'on m'enterre dans une cave où y a du bon vin --Aykavil 05:59, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

You reminded me of that funny episode of the Simpsons where Bart is kidnapped in France and forced to make wine by some thugs. On another note, what does that song mean anyway? --AlexFili 07:18, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

This song would be one of the most popular french drinking song. An approximate translation of some selected lyrics follows.

"Knights of the round table, let's drink and taste our brew

...

If I die, I want to be buried in a cellar where there is some masterpiece wine

Both feet against the wall, and my head placed under the spigot

On my tomb I want engraved Here lies the king of drinkers"

--Aykavil 08:12, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Burial at Sea

Dwarves will get unhappy if their friends and loved ones are left to rot, and so the best thing to do it to summarily dump all corpses into the magma for a proper burial at sea. You can still build coffins for the dead and place them, relations won't grieve for a properly disposed of corpse, and the coffins will be marked with the names of the dearly departed who have gone to rejoin the one true heart of the mountains. Rkyeun 22:04, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

Isn't that more like cremation? --Kydo 17:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Clutter of Clothing

My dwarves plaster the vicinity around a dwarfs' coffin with their clothing for no apparent reason. Why do they bring it there, and why do they leave it there? --Corona688 00:32, 2 November 2008 (EDT)

I did notice that after accidentally killing a noble, his rooms were reclaimed, but since he still owned a Tomb all his clothing and owned goods were moved to the Tomb by the cleanup crew. Is this what you're talking about? --Jellyfishgreen 11:09, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Better late than never. Dwarves do not really seem to distinguish between different types of held rooms. Discounting containers (i.e., if the dwarf owns no chests or cabinet) they're just as likely to scatter things around an owned tomb, office, dining room, zoo, etc., as they are around their bedroom. One time, a record keeper decided to reserve his "meager office" in the dining room by leaving his pants on the chair. Giving each and every dwarf a personal chest and cabinet will usually all but eliminate that sort of thing. At least until the economy kicks in, and they start acquiring all kinds of garbage. And if you minted coins, you're screwed. So if a dwarf brings stuff to his own tomb, that's why. --Arrkhal 03:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

As for the above mentioned dead noble, see Tomb - dwarves that have been specifically assigned to a tomb do not lose their possessions when they die, but other dwarves will instead place the items in the tomb, either on the floor or in a chest/cabinet. --Quietust 05:24, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Means of Death

Is there a happiness penalty (or at least, a different one than usual) if a dwarf dies of old age? --Loyal 15:28, 4 January 2010 (EST)

Yes - in my earliest successful fort, the King died of old age, and the Queen Consort "lost a spouse to tragedy lately". --Quietust 22:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Wait... Dwarfs can die of old age? Sense when? I have never had a dwarf die in such a manner. --Golianor 13:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Dwarves can live for up to 160 years - while your starting 7 and your migrants are reasonably young, your King may be very old by the time you get him. --Quietust 13:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)