v0.31 Talk:Titan

There's a chance that default humanoid titans as we know them might cease to exist in DF 2010, if that happens, Titan should be edited to accomodate info on the old titans and the new ones, instead of keeping a page for something that doesn't exist in the game anymore. Dakk 21:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

No, actually it shouldn't. What will happen is this:

• In the 40d namespace, the existing "titan" article, 40d:titan, will remain as is, untouched - still valid and accurate as it stands for this version.
• A new article will be created for "( newversion# ):titan", to be forever consistent with all other newversion# articles.*
• The Search term "titan" will redirect to "cv:titan", which it does now, so no edit necessary there. ("cv" = "current version", so "titan" redirects to 40d now, and will redirect to the next version as soon as we have that one up and running.*)

That's how it's going to work with many, many articles that share names but not details between the present version and the one we might have within a week.

(* As a side note/reminder, all users should be conscious that there will be no version called "DF2010" - it will have a significant reference number like "40d" or "23a" or whatever, but exactly what that number will be we won't know until Toady tells us, which might not be until the release itself.)

--Albedo 21:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, the Titan article should be the default page for both Titans ( as in, the overland big boys ) as well as a subarticle on the same page for Forgotten Beasts, since Forgotten Beasts are just basically subterranean Titans. --Pathos 15:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Are multiple articles really nescessary?

Really, its silly to keep two pages, one for the old version and one for the new version. It'll only confuse new users and take up more space. Why not just merge both articles, with a section in the end called Titans in old versions just like every other game wiki does with features that have been changed drastically? It'd make things alot less clunky and confusing to people who are new to DF, and take up less space. Dakk 23:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The way the admins have set up the version namespaces allows players searching from DF2010 (or whatever it will be called) pages to find DF2010 pages and likewise 40d to 40d and so on. So yeah, it's really confusing right now, but once some time has gone by and all the new stubs have been expanded into full pages and the stable release has gotten everyone playing this version, it'll cease to be an issue. --Retro 00:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually a spoiler?

Are titans really that spoilerific? Anyone looking through the legends screen can see them, and people even come to worship them! They're pretty hard to miss. --Tfaal 20:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I think the non spoilers and spoilers should be separated, as not all of it is a major spoiler. --Tarran 22:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Combat strategies?

Any tips on how to beat them? Whenever I fight one the military dwarves (both mine and merchant guards) pull off most of its body parts very fast but are then unable to damage it further, though the titan itself doesn't dish out much damage it obviously causes lots of problems having an unending megabeast battle outside my front door. I've managed to kill them with a constructed cave-in trap but I'd like something less gamey if possible.

I encountered an Ocean Titan made of a blob of fire that had wings. It jumped down my refuse put and laid waste to my dining halls before I was able to lure it into my farm area. At some point I noticed both his wings were gone. I flooded the area in the hope that it was hurting him, but the steam just kept rising. He finally went down through my resevoir with lots of water and evaporated it all and then blue out my flood gate that was plugging the bottom. The titan is laying waste to my dwarves now as the lower caverns begin to flood.

Just how do you take on an Ocean Titan made of a blob of fire?

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If the titan isn't magma-safe, then you can cause a cave-in over its head to knock it unconcious and make it trigger a cage trap, and then dump the cage into magma. If the titan IS magma safe, your only option might be to repeat the previous method, but then pour water over the magma so it ends up sealed inside solid obsidian for the rest of time. – unsigned comment by 86.151.201.219

Titans cannot be stunned or knocked unconscious, so it is impossible to get one into a cage - thus, if the titan is not magma-safe, you need to either move it to the magma (drop it into the magma or convince it to swim through the magma) or move the magma to it (i.e. pour magma on top of it). --Quietust 16:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Properties

A quick test suggests that titans have most of the same properties as forgotten beasts, with several exceptions: [TITAN] instead of [FEATURE_BEAST], lack of [CARNIVORE], lack of [BIOME], and a small percentage of them seem to be [BENIGN] rather than [LARGE_PREDATOR] (about 8 out of 214 in my initial test). --Quietust 20:17, 3 June 2010 (UTC)