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:*"The labor factor is the fraction of stone dug out of an area, and as such, it's a percentage, between 0 and 100%."
 
:*"The labor factor is the fraction of stone dug out of an area, and as such, it's a percentage, between 0 and 100%."
 
:These definitions don't agree with each other.  Under the first definition, digging a tunnel, digging a channel, carving a ramp, and carving a stairway should all count as the same amount of labor, since they take a miner the same amount of time.  Under the second, a channel or ramp counts for twice as much as a tunnel or stairway.  Are we concerned with the amount of time it takes to mine, or the amount of stone produced?  --[[User:LaVacaMorada|LaVacaMorada]] 11:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 
:These definitions don't agree with each other.  Under the first definition, digging a tunnel, digging a channel, carving a ramp, and carving a stairway should all count as the same amount of labor, since they take a miner the same amount of time.  Under the second, a channel or ramp counts for twice as much as a tunnel or stairway.  Are we concerned with the amount of time it takes to mine, or the amount of stone produced?  --[[User:LaVacaMorada|LaVacaMorada]] 11:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
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::Ah - the second can be read two different ways, and now that you point it out it is not airtight phrasing.  It should be read in light of the first, which is "...''the fraction of tiles required to be designated for digging''...", not "...''the fraction of tiles that are removed by digging''...", the difference only being relevant in ramps (or cave-ins).  Without your ramp example, they are one and the same.  Will edit.  (However, do you really not grok that this is the only relevant meaning of the word "labor" in this context?  That to be consistent with every other "Labor: %" value in this article, this ''has'' to be the only meaning possible?) --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 18:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

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Exploratory mining

I'm a bit confused as to what you mean by labor vs. net effect... 

How about the definition in the article? Exploratory_mining#Labor --Albedo 07:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Which one? I see two of them:
  • "Labor is the amount of work that goes into the digging process."
  • "The labor factor is the fraction of stone dug out of an area, and as such, it's a percentage, between 0 and 100%."
These definitions don't agree with each other. Under the first definition, digging a tunnel, digging a channel, carving a ramp, and carving a stairway should all count as the same amount of labor, since they take a miner the same amount of time. Under the second, a channel or ramp counts for twice as much as a tunnel or stairway. Are we concerned with the amount of time it takes to mine, or the amount of stone produced? --LaVacaMorada 11:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Ah - the second can be read two different ways, and now that you point it out it is not airtight phrasing. It should be read in light of the first, which is "...the fraction of tiles required to be designated for digging...", not "...the fraction of tiles that are removed by digging...", the difference only being relevant in ramps (or cave-ins). Without your ramp example, they are one and the same. Will edit. (However, do you really not grok that this is the only relevant meaning of the word "labor" in this context? That to be consistent with every other "Labor: %" value in this article, this has to be the only meaning possible?) --Albedo 18:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)