v0.31 Talk:Attack

Created this page - until someone learns the full military interface, this is all(?) they need. It's all I needed. Might be better moved to a diff title, like "To kill a thief", but this is what I thought of first.--Albedo 01:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if I agree with the need for this article, If it does stay around, it needs to be cleaned up. Doctorzuber 08:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

If you understand how military works, you don't need this article. The "need" for this article is, as I said above, for those who don't want to slog through 3 long, complex articles to fully understand Template:L, Template:Ls and Template:L just to have a couple nearby dwarfs run off a tribe of macaques or raccoons in the first season. (Not sure what "cleaning up" you think it needs, but knock yourself out.)--Albedo 20:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

That's a mighty big if, and the whole reason for the existence of wikis is to provide that understanding. - AngleWyrm 22:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there is an audience for this article. It should probably be linked from the tutorial or quickstart guide. --Zombiejustice 21:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Definitely useful, at least for now. To be honest I was close to giving up on the new military system as hopelessly broken and this page is part of what convinced me otherwise. ManaUser 23:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

First, thank you for writing this detailed explanation, it's been a big help for me. Second, how do you cancel a kill order? I sent my main squad to go kill a thief, who then escaped off the edge of the map. The squad still has "Kill So-and-So" as their task. I don't want to destroy my squad, it's all set up with custom weapons, a schedule, and a lot of elbow grease to make that happen. - AngleWyrm 22:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Don't make no sense

Why have the commander be someone you DON'T want fighting? Why the doctor? --Zombiejustice 03:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

<sigh> Okay, fair enough. (Altho' this discussion really doesn't belong here, but...)

This article is not about "permanent" military, but only about short-term, "right now" military, right? So, you want to use the "nearest" dwarfs, not wait for those who are trained - and might be across the map. So while you can designate a squad off your Militia Commander, you won't want to unless they happen to be right there by the target - unlikely. So you find the nearest dwarf (or so), make them a militia captain (for this effort only), and build off of them.

Why not the doctor? Simply because you don't want your doctor to get hurt or die! Who will patch them up? Who will patch up anyone else?! If you make the doctor the M Commander, and have a policy to never build a squad off of that designated noble, then they will never be sent off toward trouble. That, and since the Commander has no skills that matter, you'll never(?) have to replace that position because the old one ran off and got themself killed.

But if that still "don't make sense" and you want to send your doctor into battle, don't let me stop you!--Albedo 20:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Are you angry? I'm not calling you out, I'm just naturally curious about other people's play styles. Your explanation here clarified the points of my confusion; I think the article could benefit from parts of it. I'll edit them in. --Zombiejustice 21:23, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

This had me confused too. Given that this page is supposed to represent the simplest possible way to attack, why not just designate the guy who should attack as commander in the first place? Yes the other way works, by why do an extra step? ManaUser 23:38, 25 April 2010 (UTC)