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The experience amounts listed in this table are wrong. They are not 1..2..3.. etc. They are the same as the 40d table. [[User:Garanis|Garanis]] 02:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC) | The experience amounts listed in this table are wrong. They are not 1..2..3.. etc. They are the same as the 40d table. [[User:Garanis|Garanis]] 02:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| + | I started a game with a proficient farmer but never planted anything. I can verify that after 5 game years, my proficient farmer "rusted" to be skilled. So, I assume he lost experience like Toady noted would be included in this release. I don't know when exactly it happened, but on those scales it doesn't really bear mentioning. If you had a legendary it would never really come into play. I don't know if it even bears mentioning on the page. Anyone? --[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 21:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Legendary +1...
Do we have any proof - or even any hint - that these still exist?--Albedo 21:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Only in the sense that they *used to* exist. I left it on the table; if someone else is braver than I, they can remove it until such time as they are proved to exist and matter. 129.2.164.85
- At least in adventure mode it is possible to have a higher level than 500. I had a wrestler and fighter skill of about [*****/50000], which would be a level of (50000/100(for the experience))-5(for starting experience) which is about level 495. I got this by wrestling a bronze
titancolossus after I dropped him into a murky pool. I have still a pic of THAT but not of the experience. I haven't modded the game nor used cheats/hacks.I try to redo that (deleted the save) and make PICS!Not needed you can use the battle arena to do this. Just make a bronze colossus in the water and another creature on the ground above the water. Then attack/wrestle it. You easy get a very high wrestling skill since EVERY attack of wrestling increases wrestling and fighter about 5000-30000 points.
- At least in adventure mode it is possible to have a higher level than 500. I had a wrestler and fighter skill of about [*****/50000], which would be a level of (50000/100(for the experience))-5(for starting experience) which is about level 495. I got this by wrestling a bronze
On this topic, I have evidence (if not proof) that Legendary +1 (etc.) exist. I have two miners, both legendary, but one of whom has been mining for a quite a bit longer, and mines appreciably faster (50% faster or so). So, there could be other factors at work here, but the obvious answer is Legendary+1. Rodya mirov
- Whatever Dwarf Therapist uses for it seems to think so because it's still listed as legandary +x. Mason (T-C) 18:53, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- Technically, skill beyond Legendary wouldn't have any effect on miners, but it would have an effect on anybody producing goods - a straight Legendary mason would occasionally produce *superior* goods, while Legendary+5 would be strictly ≡exceptional≡ and ☼masterwork☼ goods. Considering this behavior has been present ever since the 2D version, it's highly unlikely that it would have been removed now. --Quietust 19:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- It's not been removed - levels 16-20 still show in memory. The effects of levels 16-20 on produced item quality could have changed (but do not appear to based on anecdotal tests of legendary engravers). Bpuk 22:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- I second this, tho for a different reason - I've had my broker switch to "administrator" type from "miner" (he is legendary at both, and had just bought about 11k of goods). Give him a pick and set him to mine, soon enough he's back to "miner" type. Despite being legendary in both a few years back. - Nimblewright (forgot to sign in)
- It's not been removed - levels 16-20 still show in memory. The effects of levels 16-20 on produced item quality could have changed (but do not appear to based on anecdotal tests of legendary engravers). Bpuk 22:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- Technically, skill beyond Legendary wouldn't have any effect on miners, but it would have an effect on anybody producing goods - a straight Legendary mason would occasionally produce *superior* goods, while Legendary+5 would be strictly ≡exceptional≡ and ☼masterwork☼ goods. Considering this behavior has been present ever since the 2D version, it's highly unlikely that it would have been removed now. --Quietust 19:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Experience amounts
The experience amounts listed in this table are wrong. They are not 1..2..3.. etc. They are the same as the 40d table. Garanis 02:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Atrophy of skills
I started a game with a proficient farmer but never planted anything. I can verify that after 5 game years, my proficient farmer "rusted" to be skilled. So, I assume he lost experience like Toady noted would be included in this release. I don't know when exactly it happened, but on those scales it doesn't really bear mentioning. If you had a legendary it would never really come into play. I don't know if it even bears mentioning on the page. Anyone? --Kwieland 21:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)