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Anyway, keep at it mate --[[User:Jan|Jan]] ([[User talk:Jan|talk]]) 11:59, 30 December 2021 (UTC) | Anyway, keep at it mate --[[User:Jan|Jan]] ([[User talk:Jan|talk]]) 11:59, 30 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :Much thanks for the suggestions – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 15:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | :* 22em was actually the original size I went with, before changing it to 24em midway (I used [[wikipedia:Template:Chembox]] as my base). But I didn't know that they set it for that reason. I like keeping it to the standard so I'll change it, but as of now I don't plan on using images. | ||
+ | :* Useful or not, I believe it's important to present all default graphics of the game... not good at explaining myself. I play in ascii and there'll be a portion of the playerbase who'll keep playing the classic version in vanilla ascii. Yeah I've been thinking about Steam graphics. [https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dwarf_(monster) NetHackWiki] displays both ascii & sprites side-by-side, which is what I imagine/wish we could do. I don't know if they'll allow us to upload and use steam sprites on this wiki, if there were already discussions on this I haven't looked it up or seen it. Regardless I do want there to be representation for both official versions (steam & classic). Can't do much until Steam release. Proofs of concept: | ||
+ | :{| class="wikitable infobox" style="float: left; border: 1px solid #aaa; margin: 0 0 1em 6px; border-spacing: 0; width: 22em; font-size: 88%; line-height: 1.5em;" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" style="padding: 0.1em 0.25em;" | Appearance | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! | ||
+ | ! Graphical | ||
+ | ! Classic | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold;" | Tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel.png|16px]] | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☺|3:0:0}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold;" | Soldier tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel2.png|16px]] | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☻|0:0:1}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold;" | Child tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel.png|16px]] | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☺|4:0:0}} | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | :{| class="wikitable infobox" style="float: left; border: 1px solid #aaa; margin: 0 0 1em 6px; border-spacing: 0; width: 22em; font-size: 88%; line-height: 1.5em;" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" style="padding: 0.1em 0.25em;" | Appearance | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold;" | Tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel.png|16px]] | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☺|3:0:0}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold;" | Soldier tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel2.png|16px]] | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☻|0:0:1}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold;" | Child tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel.png|16px]] | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☺|4:0:0}} | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | :{| class="wikitable infobox" style="float: left; border: 1px solid #aaa; margin: 0 0 1em 6px; border-spacing: 0; width: 22em; font-size: 88%; line-height: 1.5em;" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" style="padding: 0.1em 0.25em;" | Appearance | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☺|3:0:0}} | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;" | Tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel.png|16px]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☻|0:0:1}} | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;" | Soldier tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel2.png|16px]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | {{Tile|☺|4:0:0}} | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;" | Child tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel.png|16px]] | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | :{| class="wikitable infobox" style="float: left; border: 1px solid #aaa; margin: 0 0 1em 6px; border-spacing: 0; width: 22em; font-size: 88%; line-height: 1.5em;" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="padding: 0.1em 0.25em;" | Appearance | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;" | Tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel.png|16px]] {{Tile|☺|3:0:0}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;" | Soldier tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel2.png|16px]] {{Tile|☻|0:0:1}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;" | Child tile | ||
+ | | style="background-color: #000; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; overflow: hidden;" | [[File:Dwarf head pixel.png|16px]] {{Tile|☺|4:0:0}} | ||
+ | |} |
Revision as of 15:58, 30 December 2021
Thanks!
Thank you for the time and effort you've put into fixing up the Dwarf Fortress Wiki; you're doing a fine job! --Loci (talk) 16:43, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words. – Doorkeeper 07:45, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
naxboxes
I just added {{soil}} to go along with the soil navboxes you created a couple days ago. Using that on soil pages instead of the version-specific templates is preferable because it allows the page text to be copied without changes when we do a version migration (although that hasn't happened in a long time). I'll set up a script to change those when I get a chance, so don't worry about changing them yourself. Thanks for all the work you've been doing! —Lethosor (talk) 16:26, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you, and I wasn't aware of that feature (the helper template). I'll remember to ask these things beforehand. This wiki has a very unique structure and I try so my edits don't accidentally screw with them, but I make mistakes too... I'll finish up some of my lesser edits on the soil articles for now. -– Doorkeeper 18:55, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Lethosor, I recently uploaded File:Jabberer.png (that I took from here), but before I had it uploaded to the wiki, I converted the file format from .jpg to .png because I had a preconceived notion that it would make the image come out better. I just learned more about image file formats and I realized that this did nothing but make the file unnecessarily bigger (and it also altered the brightness of the image, something I had not intended). It is a small mistake but I feel bothered over making such an error and I cannot leave it alone. Could you delete that file, so I can upload the image again (this time not converting it into a png) and replace it? I can't do "Upload a new version of the file" because I think the file format can't be altered as it is once uploaded. I was originally going to move the file name but I wasn't sure if it would work and decided not to, so I am asking to you instead. – Doorkeeper 11:43, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Infoboxes
Great project goals, you seem to making great strides with those fantastic looking infoboxes! Few thoughts:
- Creature template seem a little too big and overwhelming with details. I'd suggest to use collapsible elements to hide some of the less used details like the list of body tissue composition.
- The default infobox width on mediawiki projects is 22em not 24em, its minor thing but it would better align with [[File:image|thumb]] which also default to 22em.
- Personally, I find the usefulness of the appearance sections dubious given how few people actually use the default ascii tileset. Also with upcoming steam release various entities appearance might change which could break the layout.
- For connivance I have added Category:Infobox templates to help group all the infboxe templates and their elements in one place you can review them at.
- If you planning to work on the skill/labor Infobox template I would apricate if you can consider the terminolgy used there.
Anyway, keep at it mate --Jan (talk) 11:59, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- Much thanks for the suggestions – Doorkeeper 15:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- 22em was actually the original size I went with, before changing it to 24em midway (I used wikipedia:Template:Chembox as my base). But I didn't know that they set it for that reason. I like keeping it to the standard so I'll change it, but as of now I don't plan on using images.
- Useful or not, I believe it's important to present all default graphics of the game... not good at explaining myself. I play in ascii and there'll be a portion of the playerbase who'll keep playing the classic version in vanilla ascii. Yeah I've been thinking about Steam graphics. NetHackWiki displays both ascii & sprites side-by-side, which is what I imagine/wish we could do. I don't know if they'll allow us to upload and use steam sprites on this wiki, if there were already discussions on this I haven't looked it up or seen it. Regardless I do want there to be representation for both official versions (steam & classic). Can't do much until Steam release. Proofs of concept:
Appearance Tile Soldier tile Child tile