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== Biomes and stone layers == | == Biomes and stone layers == | ||
| − | Biomes have no relation to the [[stone]] [[layer]](s) that lie below them, beyond the first (which is often a type of [[soil]]. | + | Biomes have no relation to the [[stone]] [[layer]](s) that lie below them, beyond |
| + | the first (which is often a type of [[soil]]. | ||
:How sure are we about this? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | :How sure are we about this? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
:: I haven't seen any correlation between rock layers and biomes. Other than granite which is often the base of mountains and is more common there. There are a few soil types that are found only in the ocean, but those are normally never encountered unless you extend your embarkation zone way out to sea.--[[User:Smjjames|Smjjames]] 14:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | :: I haven't seen any correlation between rock layers and biomes. Other than granite which is often the base of mountains and is more common there. There are a few soil types that are found only in the ocean, but those are normally never encountered unless you extend your embarkation zone way out to sea.--[[User:Smjjames|Smjjames]] 14:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::No, VD is right - it's "apparent", it's intuitive, it's logical, it's that way in RL, but it's not conclusive nor is there any concrete supporting evidence (proving the absence of something - never easy). It was my post - I'll edit to reflect that.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
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How do the stuff you can search for (rainfall, drainage, etc) interact with what biomes form in a region? Random832 01:46, 21 November 2008 (EST)
- Very good question. I want lots and lots of forests in my worlds because I like elephants for their big droopy asses.--Maximus 04:22, 21 November 2008 (EST)
- Apparently, every biome has some combintions of parameters valis. For example: low rainfall + high drainage = desert, and so on... But we need to gather complete list. Worldgen cookbook is a good place to search for info already known. and we can ask Toady--Dorten 06:45, 21 November 2008 (EST)
From the forums
Hello again.
Since it took me some time to figure these out, im posting them for everyone to save their time. Biome names are taken from wiki by comparing with map legend from here: http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Map_legend , although there seem to be some discrepancies.
Sav and Volc are irrelevant to biomes in world editor.
By elevation:
Water
Elevation: 1 - 99
Low Mountain
Elevation: 300 - 332
Mountain
Elevation: 333 - 365
High mountain
Elevation: 366 - 400
Everything else Elevation: 100 - 299
By rain/drain:
Hill
Rain: 10 - 66 Drain: 50 - 100
Sand Desert
Rain: 0-9 Drain: 0-32
Rock Desert
Rain: 0-9 Drain: 33-49
Desert Badlands A
Rain: 0-9 Drain: 50 - 65
Desert Badlands B
Rain: 0-9 Drain: 66 - 100
Second Desert Badlands biome (per wiki), occupying higher drain areas
Grassland
Rain: 10-19 Drain: 0-49
Savanna
Rain: 20-32 Drain: 0-49
Marsh
Rain: 33-65 Drain: 0-32
The character is darker than marsh in wiki map legend and matches that of a swamp instead, but on wiki both marsh and savanna have the same characters, so im guessing this one actually is marsh.
Shrubland
Rain: 33-65 Drain: 33-49
Swamp
Rain: 66-100 Drain: 0-32
Forest
(conifer icon, probably means temperate) Rain: 66-100 Drain: 33-100
Forest becomes Broadleaf in high temperatures, which makes it the only biome in world editor that is dependant on temperature. Im guessing that the character for Conifer actually serves for temperate conifer and broadleaf, and the broadleaf icon means tropical broadleaf forest, because thats what the rain/temp/drain stats suggest, and otherwise there would be no differentiation between temperate and tropical.
Forest
(broadleaf icon, probably means tropical) Temperature: ~ 60-75 (varies a bit for different drain values) --Dorten 07:34, 21 November 2008 (EST)
- I added this info to the page, but I notice there seem to be missing ranges; what happens if rainfall is 0-65 and drainage is 50-100? --FunkyWaltDogg 22:07, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Biomes and stone layers
Biomes have no relation to the stone layer(s) that lie below them, beyond the first (which is often a type of soil.
- How sure are we about this? VengefulDonut 12:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- I haven't seen any correlation between rock layers and biomes. Other than granite which is often the base of mountains and is more common there. There are a few soil types that are found only in the ocean, but those are normally never encountered unless you extend your embarkation zone way out to sea.--Smjjames 14:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, VD is right - it's "apparent", it's intuitive, it's logical, it's that way in RL, but it's not conclusive nor is there any concrete supporting evidence (proving the absence of something - never easy). It was my post - I'll edit to reflect that.--Albedo 17:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- I haven't seen any correlation between rock layers and biomes. Other than granite which is often the base of mountains and is more common there. There are a few soil types that are found only in the ocean, but those are normally never encountered unless you extend your embarkation zone way out to sea.--Smjjames 14:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)