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:::i am fully aware that the game is still in alpha testing, thank you. :] i am also lead to believe that dual wielding is to become part of the game. when? who knows. going from my (limited) experience in DF, axedwarves pick up two weapons (one in each hand), sacreficing their shield. if it wasnt at all possible to fight with an axe in either hand, why wouldnt they pick up an assigned shield instead? indeed, why would there be script to allow a dwarf to pick up an axe in each hand, if it then becomes useless? surely the script would read like "any axe-user holds the axe in his/her right hand", and not "an axedwarf is allowed to hold an axe in either hand" perhaps the battle logs (no idea what they are; never used them) are only told that the dwarf is attacking with one weapon, but that doesnt imply that either A) the logs arent picking up the use of the second weapon, perhaps choosing to say it's the same weapon, or B) the damage done isnt a combined total of both weapons, as if they were one. i know the answer is probably going to be 'it's buggy', but that could also be true of the battle system in-game, allowing dwarves to dual-wield, in a sense, and the battle logs. who says they're the completed product? - [[User:DJ Devil|DJ]] | :::i am fully aware that the game is still in alpha testing, thank you. :] i am also lead to believe that dual wielding is to become part of the game. when? who knows. going from my (limited) experience in DF, axedwarves pick up two weapons (one in each hand), sacreficing their shield. if it wasnt at all possible to fight with an axe in either hand, why wouldnt they pick up an assigned shield instead? indeed, why would there be script to allow a dwarf to pick up an axe in each hand, if it then becomes useless? surely the script would read like "any axe-user holds the axe in his/her right hand", and not "an axedwarf is allowed to hold an axe in either hand" perhaps the battle logs (no idea what they are; never used them) are only told that the dwarf is attacking with one weapon, but that doesnt imply that either A) the logs arent picking up the use of the second weapon, perhaps choosing to say it's the same weapon, or B) the damage done isnt a combined total of both weapons, as if they were one. i know the answer is probably going to be 'it's buggy', but that could also be true of the battle system in-game, allowing dwarves to dual-wield, in a sense, and the battle logs. who says they're the completed product? - [[User:DJ Devil|DJ]] | ||
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+ | :::my legendary speardwarf was carrying two spears (both in the same hand, btw; his right one), even though he was assigned a shield. he was in battle not-so-long ago, and BOTH his weapons were covered in goblin blood (quote: "iron spear - contents: goblin blood covering", not 'spatter' or whatever x]). it was a siege, so it could be that during the melee, blood was thrown all over the place, including the 'one on his back', but i'm starting to think that dual wielding is more and more possible.<br>of course, i followed him when i deselected 'number of weapons - 2', changed it back to '1', and he went to pick up a shield. he has no skill in shield user(not even 'dabbling'!), even though he's been sparring for years, and has been assigned a shield throughout.<br>on that note - he's also been assigned armour, and is only at 'talented armo(u)r user'. does armour/shield/weapon skill level up at the same time? 'cause, to me, 'talented' is about a quarter of the way to 'legendary', suggesting that he was levelling up double-quick on his weapon. (presuming, of course, that he'd hit some n00b axedwarf twice for every one he takes). i might need to add that he's up to '(no tag) wrestler', so he'll be dodging a few, but even so.. smells like someone's dual wielding to me! :D -[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 09:10, 8 March 2009 (EDT) |
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all combination dont matter, they only use one weapon to fight anyway, the second weapon is just for the case they lose the first one --Rhenaya 17:06, 5 March 2009 (EST)
- then.. why won't a dwarf assigned two axes A) sling one over his back, and B) pick up a shield? infact, why would he pick up an axe in each hand? sword users pick up two swords and a shield when assigned two weapons, usually putting both swords in one hand, and the shield in the other. also, crossbows; why, when the marksdwarves are assigned two bows and have a quiver of arrows on them, wouldnt they put one crossbow away, and fire with the other? why do they (seem to) use both with the 'hammerdwarf' skill? - DJ
- because its an alpha state game and not everything is working as intended. and dual wielding is stated as not ingame from the developer, also if you can read the comabt logs (with some tools) you will see they never use a second weapon... also you can wield two weapons in adventure mode but always attack with just one --Rhenaya 05:18, 6 March 2009 (EST)
- i am fully aware that the game is still in alpha testing, thank you. :] i am also lead to believe that dual wielding is to become part of the game. when? who knows. going from my (limited) experience in DF, axedwarves pick up two weapons (one in each hand), sacreficing their shield. if it wasnt at all possible to fight with an axe in either hand, why wouldnt they pick up an assigned shield instead? indeed, why would there be script to allow a dwarf to pick up an axe in each hand, if it then becomes useless? surely the script would read like "any axe-user holds the axe in his/her right hand", and not "an axedwarf is allowed to hold an axe in either hand" perhaps the battle logs (no idea what they are; never used them) are only told that the dwarf is attacking with one weapon, but that doesnt imply that either A) the logs arent picking up the use of the second weapon, perhaps choosing to say it's the same weapon, or B) the damage done isnt a combined total of both weapons, as if they were one. i know the answer is probably going to be 'it's buggy', but that could also be true of the battle system in-game, allowing dwarves to dual-wield, in a sense, and the battle logs. who says they're the completed product? - DJ
- my legendary speardwarf was carrying two spears (both in the same hand, btw; his right one), even though he was assigned a shield. he was in battle not-so-long ago, and BOTH his weapons were covered in goblin blood (quote: "iron spear - contents: goblin blood covering", not 'spatter' or whatever x]). it was a siege, so it could be that during the melee, blood was thrown all over the place, including the 'one on his back', but i'm starting to think that dual wielding is more and more possible.
of course, i followed him when i deselected 'number of weapons - 2', changed it back to '1', and he went to pick up a shield. he has no skill in shield user(not even 'dabbling'!), even though he's been sparring for years, and has been assigned a shield throughout.
on that note - he's also been assigned armour, and is only at 'talented armo(u)r user'. does armour/shield/weapon skill level up at the same time? 'cause, to me, 'talented' is about a quarter of the way to 'legendary', suggesting that he was levelling up double-quick on his weapon. (presuming, of course, that he'd hit some n00b axedwarf twice for every one he takes). i might need to add that he's up to '(no tag) wrestler', so he'll be dodging a few, but even so.. smells like someone's dual wielding to me! :D -DJ Devil 09:10, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
- my legendary speardwarf was carrying two spears (both in the same hand, btw; his right one), even though he was assigned a shield. he was in battle not-so-long ago, and BOTH his weapons were covered in goblin blood (quote: "iron spear - contents: goblin blood covering", not 'spatter' or whatever x]). it was a siege, so it could be that during the melee, blood was thrown all over the place, including the 'one on his back', but i'm starting to think that dual wielding is more and more possible.