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v0.31 Talk:Butcher's shop
Parts Yielded
It seems that creatures now do not give the same thing when butchered. For example I butchered some Hydras in arena mode and none of the Hydras gave the same yield of parts. There seems to be a range in what you get from butchering, or is this just a side effect of now having fatness and size? In one case I got more livers from one Hydra than from a different one, how would this either of these effect major organs?
I was using a drowning tank just to see what these animals would yield. There are some things that stayed the same, like the Hydras always had 7 skulls and 14 eyes.
If the above is the case then the creature pages might need to show a range of values one could expect when butchering a certain animal. --Flying Dwarves Hurt 15:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- I have also noticed this while butchering kittens. Is it possible that the yield is related to butchering skill? --Soronhen 16:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe related to both considering that in arena mode you have either no skill or max skill. --Flying Dwarves Hurt 17:09, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- One thing I've noticed, after having my Swordsdwarf hunt down a Leopard and him killing it by severing its lower body, was that both the mutilated corpse and the lower body were butcherable, and it might be that some, if not all, parts are duplicated then, as I received two skins from the butchering in total. Unless Leopards generally yield two skins (or can). Correct me if I'm wrong... --Ramperkash 17:36, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Not all the parts are duplicated, when destroying Hydras with a Swordsdwarf it put body parts every where, and most of them were butcher-able and gave respective cut up things, further testing would have to be done to see if the lower and upper-body give duplicates if separated. I'd say if that happens again compare the body parts and see if the total is similar to one you drown (which should have everything normal).--Flying Dwarves Hurt 18:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Parts with Unknown Uses
Wouldn't tusks be used for crafts as well? I see there are Decorate with Ivory/Tooth and Make Ivory/Tooth Crafts commands at the craftsdwarf workshop, and I'd guess that tusks would be considered Ivory, if not Teeth. We'd have to check whether they actually do use tusks for those though.
Revamping Templates
The (apparently hardcoded) templates on creature pages (which previously listed butchery products) need to be made more flexible. For that purpose, we need to list possible parts here. Afaik, there is no such thing as a "chunk" anymore. That was only a placeholder, after all. Here is the beginning of a list; please expand on it and move/reformat it to the main page when you feel it is complete.
- Inedible
- Skulls
- Bones
- Teeth
- Tusks
- Hooves
- Skins
- Scales
- Edible
- Meat
- Prepared Organs
- Tripe, Sweetbread
- Fat
- Meat
Prepared Organs need their own page, rather than just Intestines. Various preparations (such as Tripe) and organs (Intestines, Brains) belong on such a page. I'll be working on that right now, of course... --The Architect 05:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
edible
I can verify as edible all mentioned in the article except eyes so far. --Old Ancient 17:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Not even meat - anyone else have this too? --Confused 21:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- I might be misinterpriting the situation, but I believe this is because you no longer have the option not to cook meat. I mean, why would you not? --Zombiejustice 03:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
- Nope. Meat and organs are not cookable. --Confused 14:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Beak
I could swear when I butchered a vulture, I ended up with a beak. An unrelated crash makes it impossible to check, though. Confirmation? --Zombiejustice 03:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)