40d Talk:Magnetite

Was this named after the Pokemon? --AlexFili 04:27, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

heh. Twas named after the mineral. --Savok 08:59, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm curious why the bit about other ores in sheets was removed, rather than moved to the real world section? It is slightly tangential, but I think it's still basically on point. It also is more accurate, since the statement about magnetite being the only processable ore in large sheets, while correct with respect to an unmodified game, is somewhat misleading. This wiki has plenty of interesting but tangential facts like this, and I think it's the better for them. --Oddrune 04:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Not sure what bauxite has to do with magnetite, nor what sylvite or potassium have to do with DF. The policy of the wiki is not to address modifications, since those are literally infinite in possibility. (Every page would have a section stating "Oh, btw - anything else is also possible...") In vanilla DF, this statement on magnetite sums it up. Anyone reading the articles on mods knows that anything is possible beyond that.--Albedo 06:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

You're not sure what bauxite has to do with magnetite? The article mentions magnetite as being an ore that exists in sheets. Bauxite is an ore. It exists in sheets. Sylvite is an ore. It exists in sheets. It's pertinent even in the un-modified game in the real-world geology section. It clarifies the statement about magnetite being the only ore to exists in sheets. Magnetite is the only PROCESSABLE ore to exist in sheets (bauxite and sylvite being examples of UNPROCESSABLE ores that exist in sheets). I think you're wrong on this, Albedo. --Oddrune 02:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The problem with your view, Oddrune, is that this isn't a general knowledge source. It's a *highly* DF-centric source, and anything that contradicts DF should not be allowed to stay in. I don't even think the "real world" section is even appropriate. Anyone that's ever done a search on something, knows about Wikipedia. If people want to know the reality about something that's mimicked or presented in DF, they can go look it up in WP. -Edward 03:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Oddrune - Some of individual statements you make are true, but that doesn't make bauxite significant to, or add anything relevant to, an article on magnetite. It makes them both central to an article on what you call "sheets", but are in fact large clusters in DF. Raccoons and kobolds are both "thieves" - should we include a complete discussion of raccoons in the kobold article? Should we add a discussion of blowguns to siege weapons because they are both "missile weapons"? No, of course not.

What's more, bauxite and sylvite are not ores, they are stone - at least in Dwarf Fortress, and this is the DF wiki, a sort of manual for that game, not a RL encyclopedia. In DF, stone is not an "unprocessable ore" - the definition of an ore is that it is processable at a smelter into metal bars. Bauxite? Sylvite?... Not so much. As Edward says, this is not a RL encyclopedia - and even if it were, this article is on "magnetite", not sheets, not ores, not anything else. You need to consider the difference between "an element of something" and "a relationship between two different things" - the color red is an element of fire engines, but an article on fire engines should not to include, nor even have links to, everything else that is also "red". --Albedo 04:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think magnetite/bauxite is a closer relation than blowgun/siege engine. That strikes me as employing hyperbole rather than reason to make a point. I'll also point out that this wiki does make a point of noting when DF and reality are in contradiction. In any case, I'll defer to the two of you, even though I think this kind of interesting fact has a place on the DF wiki.

Albedo, I do agree with changing 'sheets' to 'large clusters'. :) --Oddrune 07:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Bauxite in DF is a stone not an ore, bauxite peculiarities should be on bauxite page. The page as it stands is good; the redirect to large clusters page is good. $0.02 --Jellyfishgreen 11:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)