Editing 40d Talk:Giant cave swallow

I've had a giant cave swallow kill one of my haulers recently, so what exactly does "this creature won't attack unless threatened" mean? Does it already feel threatened when a dwarf comes too close? 

There was no military dwarf anywhere close, and I have no hunters. So the giant cave swallow must have attacked first. <sub>-Unsigned by [[User:Syndic|Syndic]]</sub>

:It means somebody spotted their [BENIGN] tag and assumed it was peaceful/neutral/cowardly when it is quite certainly aggro/aggressive/hostile.

:Sorry for any dwarves who might've gotten their eyes removed by the little flying, feathered jerks. ~ [[User:Midna|Midna]] 03:34, 5 December 2008 (EST)

:Yeah these guys have taken out 30+ hauling dwarfs on my current fortress, the fact that they fly has meant that nobody really bothers them unless they're injured and on the ground, these monsters are a force to be reckoned with.

::In Dwarf Fortress, "threatened" means "cornered" or otherwise in a situation where it believes that it cannot flee (such as [[carp]] swimming in a murky pool) - once a creature has killed one dwarf, it becomes an enemy of your civilization and will attack without provocation. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Z-Level issue ==

Not sure if anyone has noticed or if this was an isolated situation but I had a Giant Cave Swallow attack and kill a Donkey. In retaliation, I sent a Woodcutter and two squads of two Wrestlers after it. After engaging, only one Dwarf would be attacking, despite the Giant Cave Swallow being on the same Z-Level. I attributed it to some sort of flight mechanic (allowing the Swallow to engage its own targets rather than being bumrushed). However, despite being stunned and unconscious at some points; it was only truly engaged by one Dwarf at a time. I had even assigned two war dogs to the Woodcutter (whom was slaughtered) and they wouldn't engage it either.

I haven't had much experience with flying creatures so I'm not sure if this is a regular occurrence or some form of bug (or feature, re: [[Fun]]). Any others mind verifying this one way or another? Perhaps updating flying creatures (if attributable to Flying and not just Giant Cave Swallows) pages with warnings.
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	Not sure if anyone has noticed or if this was an isolated situation but I had a Giant Cave Swallow attack and kill a Donkey. In retaliation, I sent a Woodcutter and two squads of two Wrestlers after it. After engaging, only one Dwarf would be attacking, despite the Giant Cave Swallow being on the same Z-Level. I attributed it to some sort of flight mechanic (allowing the Swallow to engage its own targets rather than being bumrushed). However, despite being stunned and unconscious at some points; it was only truly engaged by one Dwarf at a time. I had even assigned two war dogs to the Woodcutter (whom was slaughtered) and they wouldn't engage it either.		Not sure if anyone has noticed or if this was an isolated situation but I had a Giant Cave Swallow attack and kill a Donkey. In retaliation, I sent a Woodcutter and two squads of two Wrestlers after it. After engaging, only one Dwarf would be attacking, despite the Giant Cave Swallow being on the same Z-Level. I attributed it to some sort of flight mechanic (allowing the Swallow to engage its own targets rather than being bumrushed). However, despite being stunned and unconscious at some points; it was only truly engaged by one Dwarf at a time. I had even assigned two war dogs to the Woodcutter (whom was slaughtered) and they wouldn't engage it either.

−	I haven't had much experience with flying creatures so I'm not sure if this is a regular occurrence or some form of bug (or feature, re: [[Fun]]). Any others mind verifying this one way or another? Perhaps updating flying creatures (if attributable to Flying and not just Giant Cave Swallows) pages with warnings.~~--[[User:DracoG\|DracoG]] 04:06, 4 May 2009 (UTC)~~	+	I haven't had much experience with flying creatures so I'm not sure if this is a regular occurrence or some form of bug (or feature, re: [[Fun]]). Any others mind verifying this one way or another? Perhaps updating flying creatures (if attributable to Flying and not just Giant Cave Swallows) pages with warnings.