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Captain Mayday on the official forums got a tax collector during his Nist Akath story, as far as i know he doesn't have metal for minting coins his created wealth etc was this:
 
Imported Wealth: 330339
 
Exported Wealth: 42119
 
Actual fortress wealth is at 859403
 
 
hope this helps in some way --Bullion
 
  
 
I had a tax collector arrive together with the baron, baroness and hammerer, population of 13 due to bronze colossus encounter.  Fortress type is city (it doesn't decrease with population loss) [[User:Coelocanth|Coelocanth]] 22:38, 2 December 2007 (EST)
 
I had a tax collector arrive together with the baron, baroness and hammerer, population of 13 due to bronze colossus encounter.  Fortress type is city (it doesn't decrease with population loss) [[User:Coelocanth|Coelocanth]] 22:38, 2 December 2007 (EST)
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Hope this helps! [[User:Marcsterix]]
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Hope this helps! [[User:Marcsterix|Marcsterix]]
  
 
I just got a tax collector, hammerer, count (and consort), and philosopher.  It is Mid-Spring of 1058.  My Created Wealth = 1431886, Exported = 29462, Imported = 388973.  Population = 124 after the migration wave that included the nobles (111 before migration wave).  [[User:Frond|Frond]] 22:05, 30 January 2008 (EST)
 
I just got a tax collector, hammerer, count (and consort), and philosopher.  It is Mid-Spring of 1058.  My Created Wealth = 1431886, Exported = 29462, Imported = 388973.  Population = 124 after the migration wave that included the nobles (111 before migration wave).  [[User:Frond|Frond]] 22:05, 30 January 2008 (EST)
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I added a table above. If you've seen a tax collector appear at lower values, please update. (Maybe this should be on the main page?) --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 18:33, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
 
I added a table above. If you've seen a tax collector appear at lower values, please update. (Maybe this should be on the main page?) --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 18:33, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
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I got the Tax Collector, Hammerer, Baron and Baroness Consort at population '''86'''. (But lots of wealth). --[[User:AlexChurchill|AlexChurchill]] 11:51, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
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Has anyone seen the Tax Collector arrive separately from the Baron? I think the Baron, Tax Collector, and Hammerer all have the same conditions. --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 18:18, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
  
 
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:"Fill Pond" is a job that any dwarf will do, no matter what labors they have enabled.  Other jobs like that are Haul Item to Depot and Pull Lever.  [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 21:58, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:"Fill Pond" is a job that any dwarf will do, no matter what labors they have enabled.  Other jobs like that are Haul Item to Depot and Pull Lever.  [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 21:58, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
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== Fort needs to be a barony? ==
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I thought that the Tax Collector came at the same time as a Baron, therefore Fort Becomes a Barony on arrival of Tax Collector with Baron. [[User:Shardok|Shardok]] 06:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
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::Well, my logic there is that the "promoted to barony" message always comes first. But from my experience, yes, you get both ''nobles'' always at the same time. Do players ever get a baron without tax collector or the other way round? We might just as well copy all the conditions from baron over here. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 09:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
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:My current fort (v0.28.181.40d) skipped the barony stage entirely. I got a count, hammerer, tax collector, and philosopher all together, along with the "<x> and the surrounding lands have been made a county" message, without ever so much as seeing a baron. Which is odd, because my exported wealth wasn't much of a change from the last year (+2000), and it was already well over 20K before that... --[[Special:Contributions/64.146.135.21|64.146.135.21]] 01:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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::Barony -> County is entirely dependent on population, not wealth (that anyone has been able to verify).  80 for Barony, 110 for county.  I believe it only checks at the *start* of an immigration wave, so if you went from 70->100 in one wave, then the next wave you'd get a county message with the count (who would have been the baron first if you'd gotten that message).  County implies barony conditions are met.  (Barony also has a diversity of jobs requirement, so i suppose if you missed that and then satisfied it while satisfying county requirements, you could skip right to county).  --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 06:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:53, 8 March 2010

I never minted a single coin and still got a Tax Collector in about my 5th year - perhaps the trigger is wealth created or exported? --GameHat

Moved that from the article, Mr Hat. Anyway, I agree. I never minted a coin, and still got the Tax Collector. Runspotrun 23:34, 18 November 2007 (EST)

My Tax Collector has a [happy] thought "Was happy to have pleased a noble". The Count has a [happy] thought "Was pleased that the tax collection went smoothly". --Another 13:01, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Trigger Condition[edit]

Lowest Values Reported
Current Population: 13 Coelocanth
max. population fort had before arrival: 80
Created Wealth: 330,339 Cap'n Mayday, Nist Akath
Exported Wealth: 11,560 MightyMooquack
Imported Wealth: 16,396 Gibbonofdoom

I had a tax collector arrive together with the baron, baroness and hammerer, population of 13 due to bronze colossus encounter. Fortress type is city (it doesn't decrease with population loss) Coelocanth 22:38, 2 December 2007 (EST)

I recently got a fort far enough along to get this noble. I certainly had not minted any coins. What seemed to do it was my population passing 100. He arrived, along with the Baron, Consort and Hammerer in a wave that brought my population from the low 90s up to 115.

I think wealth is also required, passing 100 population brought me only the philosopher in said fort. Has anyone got the tax collector without a baron or vice versa? Coelocanth 17:57, 5 December 2007 (EST)

I just got my baron, collector, consort and hammerer. The year is 1064, my population is 100 on the dot (at the note of the arival of the nobles)

I have:

388732 imported wealth
67325 exported wealth
506478 created wealth
4336 weapons
45840 armor and garb
65710 furniture
227955 other objects
74200 architecture
37877 Displayed
50560 held/worn.

-ellipsis (not sure how to fancy up a signature in here)

It seems that having 100 population is a major factor in getting the economy.

I just got the tax collector with a couple of other nobles, its 1054 Mid-Spring. My pop is 99 now.

Created wealth: 763,020
Imported Wealth: 221,438
Exported Wealth:  21,747

Hope this helps! Marcsterix

I just got a tax collector, hammerer, count (and consort), and philosopher. It is Mid-Spring of 1058. My Created Wealth = 1431886, Exported = 29462, Imported = 388973. Population = 124 after the migration wave that included the nobles (111 before migration wave). Frond 22:05, 30 January 2008 (EST)

I just got the Tax Collector, Hammerer and Baroness in the year 1056, Mid-Spring Population: 89 Created Wealth: 398852 Imported Wealth 195743 Exported Wealth: 16396 --Gibbonofdoom 10:21, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Another data point. I just got a tax collector, hammerer, and baroness on 12th Slate, 1055, Mid-Spring. Population: 142 Created Wealth: 747376 Imported Wealth: 476282 Exported Wealth: 11560MightyMooquack 00:39, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

I added a table above. If you've seen a tax collector appear at lower values, please update. (Maybe this should be on the main page?) --Strangething 18:33, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

I got the Tax Collector, Hammerer, Baron and Baroness Consort at population 86. (But lots of wealth). --AlexChurchill 11:51, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Has anyone seen the Tax Collector arrive separately from the Baron? I think the Baron, Tax Collector, and Hammerer all have the same conditions. --Strangething 18:18, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Labors[edit]

What labors will the Tax Collector perform? The first thing my newly-arrived Tax Collector did was "Fill Pond"! Perhaps he's bored because I turned the economy off? -- Raumkraut 14:21, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

"Fill Pond" is a job that any dwarf will do, no matter what labors they have enabled. Other jobs like that are Haul Item to Depot and Pull Lever. Bouchart 21:58, 5 April 2008 (EDT)


Fort needs to be a barony?[edit]

I thought that the Tax Collector came at the same time as a Baron, therefore Fort Becomes a Barony on arrival of Tax Collector with Baron. Shardok 06:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, my logic there is that the "promoted to barony" message always comes first. But from my experience, yes, you get both nobles always at the same time. Do players ever get a baron without tax collector or the other way round? We might just as well copy all the conditions from baron over here. --Birthright 09:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
My current fort (v0.28.181.40d) skipped the barony stage entirely. I got a count, hammerer, tax collector, and philosopher all together, along with the "<x> and the surrounding lands have been made a county" message, without ever so much as seeing a baron. Which is odd, because my exported wealth wasn't much of a change from the last year (+2000), and it was already well over 20K before that... --64.146.135.21 01:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Barony -> County is entirely dependent on population, not wealth (that anyone has been able to verify). 80 for Barony, 110 for county. I believe it only checks at the *start* of an immigration wave, so if you went from 70->100 in one wave, then the next wave you'd get a county message with the count (who would have been the baron first if you'd gotten that message). County implies barony conditions are met. (Barony also has a diversity of jobs requirement, so i suppose if you missed that and then satisfied it while satisfying county requirements, you could skip right to county). --Squirrelloid 06:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)