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== Licensing == | == Licensing == | ||
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::I suggest that the copyright notice at the bottom of the page is changed to "Text is available under GFDL & MIT", to make it more explicit that the text is free to use but images may use different licenses. For reference, English Wikipedia uses similar copyright notice. [[User:Tanamoril|Tanamoril]] ([[User talk:Tanamoril|talk]]) 08:24, 15 November 2021 (UTC) | ::I suggest that the copyright notice at the bottom of the page is changed to "Text is available under GFDL & MIT", to make it more explicit that the text is free to use but images may use different licenses. For reference, English Wikipedia uses similar copyright notice. [[User:Tanamoril|Tanamoril]] ([[User talk:Tanamoril|talk]]) 08:24, 15 November 2021 (UTC) | ||
− | == Images and copyright infringement == | + | == Images and copyright infringement == |
There seem to be many images used on this wiki without permission from the author. For example, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Giant_preview.jpg this image of a giant] is taken from VegasMike on [https://www.deviantart.com/vegasmike/art/Thump-189089464 Deviantart], even though the he hasn't released it under a Creative Commons licence or similar. Another example, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Ogre_with_goblin.png this image of an ogre with a goblin] is stolen from Wildweasel339 on [https://www.deviantart.com/wildweasel339/art/Goblin-Ogre-179846688 Deviantart]. | There seem to be many images used on this wiki without permission from the author. For example, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Giant_preview.jpg this image of a giant] is taken from VegasMike on [https://www.deviantart.com/vegasmike/art/Thump-189089464 Deviantart], even though the he hasn't released it under a Creative Commons licence or similar. Another example, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Ogre_with_goblin.png this image of an ogre with a goblin] is stolen from Wildweasel339 on [https://www.deviantart.com/wildweasel339/art/Goblin-Ogre-179846688 Deviantart]. | ||
A lesser problem with some images is missing copyright information. For example, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Zombie_dwarf.jpg this zombie dwarf] is made by DioMahesa on [https://www.deviantart.com/diomahesa/art/Commission-Advanced-Races-1-626407562 Deviantart], and he does release it with Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 License. However, on this wiki, he is not attributed at all, even though the license demands attribution. | A lesser problem with some images is missing copyright information. For example, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Zombie_dwarf.jpg this zombie dwarf] is made by DioMahesa on [https://www.deviantart.com/diomahesa/art/Commission-Advanced-Races-1-626407562 Deviantart], and he does release it with Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 License. However, on this wiki, he is not attributed at all, even though the license demands attribution. | ||
− | I suggest that blatantly copyright | + | I suggest that blatantly copyright infinging images are deleted. The images with missing copyright information should be fixed. Also, whenever someone wants to upload an image to this wiki, they should make sure that the image in question is released under Creative Commons license or similar and that the relevant attribution is made on this wiki. [[User:Tanamoril|Tanamoril]] ([[User talk:Tanamoril|talk]]) 09:02, 15 November 2021 (UTC) |
:I agree, this is not passable. I have a DeviantArt account, so I am thinking of reaching out to these creators. What do you think of the following message: "Hello, I am an editor of the Dwarf Fortress Wiki. It has come to my knowledge that another user uploaded this artwork to the DF Wiki for use in one of its articles, likely with incorrect license information. Is this something you gave permission for? Otherwise it will be removed."? I feel an apology should be fitted in there somehow, but I am not sure how. This message would be either sent as a PM with a link to the relevant artwork included, or written as a comment on that artwork's page. | :I agree, this is not passable. I have a DeviantArt account, so I am thinking of reaching out to these creators. What do you think of the following message: "Hello, I am an editor of the Dwarf Fortress Wiki. It has come to my knowledge that another user uploaded this artwork to the DF Wiki for use in one of its articles, likely with incorrect license information. Is this something you gave permission for? Otherwise it will be removed."? I feel an apology should be fitted in there somehow, but I am not sure how. This message would be either sent as a PM with a link to the relevant artwork included, or written as a comment on that artwork's page. | ||
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I'm working on a proposal for an improved set of guidelines on image uploading. The [[DF:Community Portal#I|current policy]] regarding images on the Community Portal page touches very little on what is and isn't appropriate content. The new rules I'll be proposing are not gonna be about copyright (that matter has been settled here), but they could still help prevent similar issues from happening in the future. I'll post a link in the [[DF:Centralized Discussion|Centralized Discussion]] when I'm done. – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 12:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC) | I'm working on a proposal for an improved set of guidelines on image uploading. The [[DF:Community Portal#I|current policy]] regarding images on the Community Portal page touches very little on what is and isn't appropriate content. The new rules I'll be proposing are not gonna be about copyright (that matter has been settled here), but they could still help prevent similar issues from happening in the future. I'll post a link in the [[DF:Centralized Discussion|Centralized Discussion]] when I'm done. – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 12:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC) | ||
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:Sound good. I've thought about writing guidelines for images and copyrights after these present copyright issues have been solved. As far as I can tell, no such guide exists yet on this wiki. Copyright may seem to be quite a complex topic if you haven't read about it already, so I think writing a relatively easy to read guide for if a file can be used here (copyright-wise) would serve well to prevent issues like this in the future. The guide shouldn't be too long, since a guide that is too long or difficult to read is useless. This guide could be either a part of Doorkeeper's proposed guidelines on image uploading or a separate guide. [[User:Tanamoril|Tanamoril]] ([[User talk:Tanamoril|talk]]) 12:50, 22 November 2021 (UTC) | :Sound good. I've thought about writing guidelines for images and copyrights after these present copyright issues have been solved. As far as I can tell, no such guide exists yet on this wiki. Copyright may seem to be quite a complex topic if you haven't read about it already, so I think writing a relatively easy to read guide for if a file can be used here (copyright-wise) would serve well to prevent issues like this in the future. The guide shouldn't be too long, since a guide that is too long or difficult to read is useless. This guide could be either a part of Doorkeeper's proposed guidelines on image uploading or a separate guide. [[User:Tanamoril|Tanamoril]] ([[User talk:Tanamoril|talk]]) 12:50, 22 November 2021 (UTC) | ||
Checked via Discord with Kruggsmash - turns out the author of Steelclutches and Ustvangdagash (sp?) is apparently fine with the situation as is, having already seen the relevant pieces several times in their own browsing [[User:Silverwing235|Silverwing235]] ([[User talk:Silverwing235|talk]]) 20:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC) | Checked via Discord with Kruggsmash - turns out the author of Steelclutches and Ustvangdagash (sp?) is apparently fine with the situation as is, having already seen the relevant pieces several times in their own browsing [[User:Silverwing235|Silverwing235]] ([[User talk:Silverwing235|talk]]) 20:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC) | ||
− | :Thank you, Silverwing235. Is he aware of the fact that his artwork on this wiki has Creative Commons licenses apparently pulled out of thin air? For example, [[:File:Giant cave toad.jpg]] has license Creative Commons Attribution 3.0. Since Creative Commons licenses are | + | :Thank you, Silverwing235. Is he aware of the fact that his artwork on this wiki has Creative Commons licenses apparently pulled out of thin air? For example, [[:File:Giant cave toad.jpg]] has license Creative Commons Attribution 3.0. Since Creative Commons licenses are tranferable, this means that anyone browsing this wiki can use the images in their own project as long as they follow the license: in this example, someone could make a commercial product with Kruggsmash's giant cave toad on it, as long as they credit him. |
:What I am trying to point out here is that even if the artists we contact are okay with this wiki using their art, we can't really use their art unless we know under which license they want their artwork to be published here. This is related to the discussion above about "permission to use in Dwarf Fortress wiki only" [[User:Tanamoril|Tanamoril]] ([[User talk:Tanamoril|talk]]) 06:59, 29 November 2021 (UTC) | :What I am trying to point out here is that even if the artists we contact are okay with this wiki using their art, we can't really use their art unless we know under which license they want their artwork to be published here. This is related to the discussion above about "permission to use in Dwarf Fortress wiki only" [[User:Tanamoril|Tanamoril]] ([[User talk:Tanamoril|talk]]) 06:59, 29 November 2021 (UTC) | ||
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