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Hi There - I'm relatively new to the DFwiki, and I noticed that some of the thread links on the Main Page don't work correctly. I logged in to try and edit the page, but when it wasn't an available option, I realized that it is probably restricted to administrators, given the 'please report vandalism' thing in the site announcements header.

The Team17 forums have closed, so the Team17 link is a dead one. The SomethingAwful.com forums link is behind a login wall, so I'm not sure if you would want to remove this as well? I believe that they do occasionally rotate forums (such as Games) to be available to non-logged in users though, so it would perhaps be available intermittently.

• Team17 Forum Thread
• Something Awful

Agreed and removed. Thanks! --Loci (talk) 20:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Fun Comic

What happened to the Fun Comic at the Losing page?--Doktoro Reichard (talk) 21:22, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Weird. We had a problem with an image server a while back, so this may be related. I'll get Briess to check on it. —Lethosor (talk) 21:26, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Good to know (and to help). In case the file's lost, there's a crawl of it at the Internet Archive. I also observed similar problems over at the Dwarf Fortress webcomics page.--Doktoro Reichard (talk) 21:29, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

File:Comic df3.png doesn't have an edit history ([1]), which usually means that it hasn't been uploaded, although that could be incorrect. Same for the rest of them, except FunComic.png. —Lethosor (talk) 21:34, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm rebuilding all the images now. --Briess (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

The problem should now be fixed. It appears any time one of the webnodes loses a connection to the image server, it starts invalidating the images in question. I'll investigate ways to automatically rebuild the images when that happens. --Briess (talk) 22:02, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Amount of double redirects or how to fix them?

I come across several cases of double redirection which, as stated both here and in the rest of the wikiverse, are not a good thing to have.

Recently I found about the Special:DoubleRedirects page. There are roughly 350 double redirects on the wiki. From experience here, they could be easily fixed, because most redirect to the alternate name of the page, instead of the proper page itself.

As I've been adverted slightly due to a wrong fix I did I ask now if there are a set of guidelines, particularly because of the namespace usage here, that are or can be used to begin a duplicate removal process (which as stated, would be a mostly trivial thing to do, albeit costly in time).--Doktoro Reichard (talk) 17:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

• Originally, the policy was to deliberately use double redirects when going from the global namespace to version-specific namespaces and then to specific articles within those namespaces (e.g. "Green glass" -> "DF2012:Green glass" -> "DF2012:Glass") to avoid problems when new pages were created (e.g. if "Green glass" redirected straight to "DF2012:Glass" and somebody created "DF2012:Green glass" as full page, then "Green glass" wouldn't redirect to it properly). I don't know what the actual policies are anymore, though - perhaps one of the admins can chime in with more information. --Quietust (talk) 18:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

That actually doesn't work. I moved the grazer information to the grazer article last week, and, until it was fixed today, main:grazer was still linking to DF2012:pasture. It appears the wiki software is caching the double redirect, so it behaves similarly to an un-updated single redirect. Sure the errant redirect can be fixed, but so can a single redirect. In some regards the double redirect is worse, because everything looks correct, yet it doesn't work. The underlying fact is that the wiki software was not intended to support double redirects, and it does so poorly at best. The current policy is available at DF:REDIR, though it isn't set in stone.--Loci (talk) 20:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

For now, I only recommend changing double redirects to point directly to the destination page if they don't work. They should all work, but some of them don't and there isn't a single, definitive reason we've found yet. Basically, feel free to change non-working double redirects, but you don't need to go through the list and change all 350 of them. (This wiki is actually set up to allow up to 10 consecutive redirects, unlike most WMF wikis, but since that feature isn't used by many wikis it tends not to be perfect.) —Lethosor (talk) 20:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)