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I'm not going to start a revert war, but personally I thought the recently-removed parts of the article comparing the merits of wooden and silver weapons to be amusing and entirely in keeping with the style of this wiki. Impromptu vote, anyone? I vote '''keep''', myself.--[[User:Quil|Quil]] 17:54, 6 January 2009 (EST)
 
I'm not going to start a revert war, but personally I thought the recently-removed parts of the article comparing the merits of wooden and silver weapons to be amusing and entirely in keeping with the style of this wiki. Impromptu vote, anyone? I vote '''keep''', myself.--[[User:Quil|Quil]] 17:54, 6 January 2009 (EST)
I agree. Also, it helped further the distinction between wooden and silver weapons, so that a person can easily understand that, for instance, they won't find a wooden hammer.--[[User:Pyrite|Pyrite]] 22:35, 6 January 2009 (EST)
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:I agree. Also, it helped further the distinction between wooden and silver weapons, so that a person can easily understand that, for instance, they won't find a wooden hammer.--[[User:Pyrite|Pyrite]] 22:35, 6 January 2009 (EST)
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::'''Keep''', and if I actually gave a crap, I'd have reverted it myself. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 00:01, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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:::'''Keep''', because it was funny, and this wiki doesn't mind funny. I mean, we have D for Dwarf for a reason, yes? --[[User:Sinergistic|Sinergistic]] 01:20, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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::::'''Keep''', I like flavorful D is for Dwarf entries. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 09:33, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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I don't know, I think there's a difference between "dwarven humour" and "distracting and irrelevant information".  I know this "isn't Wikipedia" and that humour is fine, but I prefer *well written* humour, and honestly I'm so sick of hearing people bitch about the elves that it's no longer even remotely funny.  Really it's not (for me) so much the humour of it, but its placement.  I could see it on the "wood" page, or on the "elves" page (though I'd rather not), but it doesn't have anything to do with silver.  [[User:Thestripedone|Thestripedone]] 14:40, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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:Quit gettin' mad at video games.  Also, keep. --[[User:ThunderClaw|ThunderClaw]] 16:19, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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::I'm gettin' mad at people who play them, not the games themselves!  Personally I'd '''delete''', because I think it's unnecessary (as see above), but since I'm (obviously) in the minority I won't kick up a fuss about it. [[User:Thestripedone|Thestripedone]] 18:10, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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:It's about a use for silver (sparring weapons) and comparing silver with a material that is also affective for that use. --[[User:Pyrite|Pyrite]] 15:47, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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:As far as I'm concerned, the section is mildly amusing, also provides some information and links to other articles (as tenuous as their relation may be in some cases), and any random visitor might just happen to look up silver, go "ooh, these are good for sparring, are there any other options?" and hey, there are links to wooden weapons and where to get them from. You never know...--[[User:Quil|Quil]] 16:17, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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:::'''Keep'''. Any opportunity to disparage the elves should be taken. I hate them in World of Warcraft, and I hate them in Dwarf Fortress. The entire Lord of the Rings saga could have been avoided if Elrond would have just grown a set of nuts and pushed Isildor, One Ring and all, right into the lava at the outset. In DF, their caravans are only good for raiding, their human lackeys who siege only good for slaughter or imprisonment, and the trees only good for harvest. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 01:15, 8 January 2009 (EST)
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As an aside, what weapons do the elves provide?  I've never thought to look.  Wooden swords and bows-and-arrows, and nothing else? [[User:Thestripedone|Thestripedone]] 18:14, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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:If I recall, wooden spears and a plethora of edged weapons. I don't think they do hammers or similar bludgeoning things, and they might not do some of the larger swords, although I believe I've seen wooden axes.--[[User:Quil|Quil]] 18:35, 7 January 2009 (EST)
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'''Mild keep''' The removed parts were just a bit too overdone for me, I vote keep if it stays mild, we don't want to offend some hippie-I mean, elf- lover, now do we? I'm sure at least some people play the game as hippies- er, elves - so if we could show a little more respect to those hippie-I mean elf- loving people, keep it. NO! DESTROY THE HIPPIE ELVES!!!! Er... disregard that.--[[User:Destor|Destor]] 12:22, 9 January 2009 (EST)
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:The joke in question isn't very good. Perhaps rather than a keep, we can find a skilled writer to replace it with a better one? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 08:24, 11 January 2009 (EST)
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::How about something like this:
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::''Silver weapons have the same combat efficiency as wooden ones, but wooden weapons can only be obtained by trading with the elves, who's nasty, '''clean(!)''' Stench gets all over them. The elves also won't give you decent bludgeoning weapons, but just what amounts to pointed sticks.'' Something like that, anyway. And yes, the pointed sticks is a Monty Python reference. Yeah, that wasn't very good. We probably need a better writer.--[[User:Destor|Destor]] 11:31, 11 January 2009 (EST)

Latest revision as of 15:13, 8 March 2010

No More Elf References?[edit]

I'm not going to start a revert war, but personally I thought the recently-removed parts of the article comparing the merits of wooden and silver weapons to be amusing and entirely in keeping with the style of this wiki. Impromptu vote, anyone? I vote keep, myself.--Quil 17:54, 6 January 2009 (EST)

I agree. Also, it helped further the distinction between wooden and silver weapons, so that a person can easily understand that, for instance, they won't find a wooden hammer.--Pyrite 22:35, 6 January 2009 (EST)
Keep, and if I actually gave a crap, I'd have reverted it myself. --GreyMaria 00:01, 7 January 2009 (EST)
Keep, because it was funny, and this wiki doesn't mind funny. I mean, we have D for Dwarf for a reason, yes? --Sinergistic 01:20, 7 January 2009 (EST)
Keep, I like flavorful D is for Dwarf entries. --Squirrelloid 09:33, 7 January 2009 (EST)

I don't know, I think there's a difference between "dwarven humour" and "distracting and irrelevant information". I know this "isn't Wikipedia" and that humour is fine, but I prefer *well written* humour, and honestly I'm so sick of hearing people bitch about the elves that it's no longer even remotely funny. Really it's not (for me) so much the humour of it, but its placement. I could see it on the "wood" page, or on the "elves" page (though I'd rather not), but it doesn't have anything to do with silver. Thestripedone 14:40, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Quit gettin' mad at video games. Also, keep. --ThunderClaw 16:19, 7 January 2009 (EST)
I'm gettin' mad at people who play them, not the games themselves! Personally I'd delete, because I think it's unnecessary (as see above), but since I'm (obviously) in the minority I won't kick up a fuss about it. Thestripedone 18:10, 7 January 2009 (EST)
It's about a use for silver (sparring weapons) and comparing silver with a material that is also affective for that use. --Pyrite 15:47, 7 January 2009 (EST)
As far as I'm concerned, the section is mildly amusing, also provides some information and links to other articles (as tenuous as their relation may be in some cases), and any random visitor might just happen to look up silver, go "ooh, these are good for sparring, are there any other options?" and hey, there are links to wooden weapons and where to get them from. You never know...--Quil 16:17, 7 January 2009 (EST)
Keep. Any opportunity to disparage the elves should be taken. I hate them in World of Warcraft, and I hate them in Dwarf Fortress. The entire Lord of the Rings saga could have been avoided if Elrond would have just grown a set of nuts and pushed Isildor, One Ring and all, right into the lava at the outset. In DF, their caravans are only good for raiding, their human lackeys who siege only good for slaughter or imprisonment, and the trees only good for harvest. JubalHarshaw 01:15, 8 January 2009 (EST)

As an aside, what weapons do the elves provide? I've never thought to look. Wooden swords and bows-and-arrows, and nothing else? Thestripedone 18:14, 7 January 2009 (EST)

If I recall, wooden spears and a plethora of edged weapons. I don't think they do hammers or similar bludgeoning things, and they might not do some of the larger swords, although I believe I've seen wooden axes.--Quil 18:35, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Mild keep The removed parts were just a bit too overdone for me, I vote keep if it stays mild, we don't want to offend some hippie-I mean, elf- lover, now do we? I'm sure at least some people play the game as hippies- er, elves - so if we could show a little more respect to those hippie-I mean elf- loving people, keep it. NO! DESTROY THE HIPPIE ELVES!!!! Er... disregard that.--Destor 12:22, 9 January 2009 (EST)

The joke in question isn't very good. Perhaps rather than a keep, we can find a skilled writer to replace it with a better one? VengefulDonut 08:24, 11 January 2009 (EST)
How about something like this:
Silver weapons have the same combat efficiency as wooden ones, but wooden weapons can only be obtained by trading with the elves, who's nasty, clean(!) Stench gets all over them. The elves also won't give you decent bludgeoning weapons, but just what amounts to pointed sticks. Something like that, anyway. And yes, the pointed sticks is a Monty Python reference. Yeah, that wasn't very good. We probably need a better writer.--Destor 11:31, 11 January 2009 (EST)