v0.31 Talk:Adventurer mode

Bleeding, wounds, combat

Anyone know if bleeding can be stopped in adventurer mode? My adventurer got hit by an arrow and bled to death. I removed the arrow but couldn't do anything about THE BLOOD. Haruspex Pariah 02:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

It looks like wounds can become infected (even after partial healing) in adventurer mode. My whole right leg is "swelling", and I keep vomiting everywhere. I wonder if it'll become worse. Timst 13:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

It might be worth pointing out and further testing that the combat in adventure mode seems to be much more detailed in v0.31. There are now nerves and layers of fat and muscle involved and it will tell you if you have served motor nerves etc. or just cut into fat. Also I must agree that hammers and other blunt weapons seem to be useless as in arena mode I used an adamantine hammer and couldn't do anything but bruise the heck out of people :P Switch to an axe and suddenly the same monster died on one hit (A dragon) Could use further testing of course, also to see if that weakness carries over to Fortress Mode so people can make informed choices when attempting to defend their fortress : --205.145.64.64 17:02, 7 May 2010 (UTC)Railick Stonemane

• Adamantine blunt weapons are poor because they are very lightweight; use heavier metals for blunt weapons. --TomiTapio 18:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm relatively certain it's relevant to my infection - after killing a dragon (all dragonfire blocked), I reported the victory thrice, and upon entering another town and thus leaving the travel, my feet spontaneously began melting. None of my equipment was on fire, so I'm assuming my infected finger (smashed apart of course) spread to my feet and the message was interpreted as melting, a half dozen times per movement. Very disconcerting. (Another possible explanation is that the stairs of mead halls in a select few human capitals have faulty magma traps.)

That sounds more like a bug than how infection or burning work. You could keep a perpetual infection with no effect other than occasional puss drainage, and it doesn't spread unless you also have a syndrome. Another explanation for the melting is that you might have walked across items burning in the wake of the dragonfire and set your feet aflame; you don't get any message that your equipment is on fire until you feel the pain of the flames. DokEnkephalin 17:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Perhaps the many kinds of doctors/surgeons within the cities could treat wounds. Testing is needed, as whenever I manage to escape from a losing battle all of my wounds and bruises heal and scar. But I never manage to escape when a bone is broken. Sometimes when bones are broken they can read as "Needs Setting", so that implies that there are people that can cure broken bones.

Don't know where he lives

Have been tasked, as my first quest, to kill an armadillo fiend that is the god of one of the two of the only civilization left's religions. He's in my town, but I've no clue where he is

The 'Q'uest Log should be useful for finding things. I think it can also help pinpoint quest targets. If you're in the same world map tile (e.g. you're in the same town), zooming in on something will show you the region map instead of the world map. I was able to see a 3x3 town on the map this way (or maybe it was a cave; I forget). Region tiles represent a 48x48 space IIRC, so that should help you find the rascal. -128.211.250.173 06:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I've encountered this as well; it's my (untested) assumption that the creature in question is somewhere in a cavern underneath the town. Also, the few times I've used the quest log to zoom in on a quest target, the most precise it gets is showing the 3x3 grid on the "local area" map where the Site in question is. Anacrucis 21:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

If he's a demon, he's probably in one of the various houses and he's probably the town's Law-giver. If you actually attack him, the entire town will go hostile and try to kill you, including the guy who gave you the quest in the first place. --Quietust 22:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Mainspace redirect

Why does the mainspace Adventurer mode (and thereby the link on the main page) point to the 40d adventure mode? --StrongAxe 15:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

No attribute increase in adventure mode?

On the page it said that the attributes don't increase, but I started a dwarven adventurer and looked at his stats and it said I had a very good focus. But later that changed to a great ability to focus. So not only attributes INCREASE but also soul attributes can increase with no apparent reason.--Niggy 13:54, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

The article can't be accurate; attributes can increase with ranks in any skills. So far it appears to be random whether you get an increase and which attribute increases with each skill, but if you get enough to Legendary, you will notice some attributes climbing to Superhuman. DokEnkephalin 08:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Dwarven Fortresses

I've seen a couple dwarven fortresses in adventure mode and in each case there's a large outer wall with a ring of stairs down to a "first" floor, in which there is a centered column of ramps down to the next level (all typical from ver. 40d). The ramp leads to a "ramp room" which has another ramp (column) opposite the first, then this repeats down several more levels, until you reach a level where there is no 'next' ramp down. Importantly, each ramp room is completely enclosed. There appears to be no actual body to the fortress, no rooms, hallways, certainly no workshops, etc. Piwowk 22:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

It's been reported in the bug tracker. I actually once discovered a fortress just like this in 40d, but it seems that something has broken and is causing all worldgen dwarf fortresses to turn out like this. --Quietust 23:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I have discovered exactly one dwarf settlement in 31.04 that actually had halls and rooms in the underground layer. Just one. Anacrucis 21:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

There is a workaround... well, kind of. By replacing DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE and LIKES_SITE (latter could be an overkill) from CAVE_DETAILED to CITY in raw's "default_entity.txt" you can supply every dorf's civilization with human architector, who can design functioning shops and whistles (having bad habit of building things above the ground though)

Thoughts on Elf Adventurers

The current version of this page doesn't talk about the playable races so I thought this might be the best place to put my thoughts on elves:

• Wood equipment makes them initially a poor choice as discussed on 40d page; however they can use the same size equipment as dwarfs (and goblins) which makes looting better gear a little easier than for a Human.
• Elves seem to be friendly to most animals and non-evil creatures. They seem to lose this ability if they retire and then restart, though the loss might be caused by some other action (like killing Bambi) and the retire/restart correlation purely coincidental. Needs more testing.
• If you lack the patience to reroll countless elf adventurers and send them to their deaths in search of a metal weapon, you could roll a dwarf character, put all it's starting steel and bronze gear in it's backpack, and drop the backpack somewhere like a human town, then retire the character. Revisiting that town with your elf, you should be able to find the backpack; this is more efficient than dropping the items individually as they all seem to stay in the backpack and only the backpack is "scattered." Whether or not this method requires more or less patience than the endless stream of dead elf adventurers method requires further testing.
• Based on reviews of the Legends logs, attacking (or being attacked by?) members of a given Entity seems to make that Entity an Enemy of any Entities your adventurer belongs to. While I haven't tested this, it would seem possible that this could cause your civilization in Fortress mode to be at War with someone on embark, if you made some enemies with a dwarf adventurer of the same civilization. Playing an elf would avoid this presumed problem as long as you don't retire in a dwarven town or anything. (After all, every dwarf knows that elves are no fun.) I propose more testing for this.

Anacrucis 21:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The lack of random encounters from savage creatures does shelter a starting elf, from unprepared attacks that can end a novice dwarf or human quickly, but also from developing skill that other races have to. You can pick your targets at leisure, but the interface gets tedious as you have to confirm each and every attack. Since you can pretty much ignore wildlife, in later stages you don't have to waste time on the zerg rushes from outleagued critters. If evil lands exist in your world, they're a decent place to farm weapon experience in low-to-mid levels, until you're ready for local questing.

The early equipment problem is solved with hand-picked recruitment of dwarves eager for glorious death. Goblin civilizations populated with dwarves tend to have more dwarves with better overall gear, so they make good targets, and they're fitting enemies for your dwarven companions to die in battle with. Money is pretty much pointless for elves, so you can travel light with only the weapons you like, or are currently training. You can have full steel in short order with this method; better gear than human coin can buy.

DokEnkephalin 08:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Starting wars?

Can an adventurer cause wars by traveling around and attacking peaceful civilizations? --TomiTapio 18:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Sort of. If the civilizations aren't already at war, they won't call it war. But if you're allied with one and cause trouble in another, they will name anyone you attack or who attacks you as an enemy, who will become a quest target. You could very easily make this snowball into a chain of aggressions from your allied nation on the ones that you're attacking. Even better, if you bring companions from your allies into settlement that has declared you enemy, they will run completely amok. This could be any nations at any range, whether they have any good reason for war or not. DokEnkephalin 17:09, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Pools and swimming

Is the "climb out of pool" bugged in 31.08? Alt-move (and shift & ctrl) doesn't climb out. --TomiTapio 19:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Once you issue the command, press Enter (or click the mouse) and you should actually be on the surface - there's some bugs with delayed input that have yet to be resolved. If Alt+Move isn't actually giving you a movement menu, then you're probably drowning and aren't physically capable of climbing out of the pool. --Quietust 19:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

So an adventurer should invest in the swimming skill, because of charging attacks and dodging jumps. --TomiTapio 23:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Now DF .31.13, (alt-move, a, enter) lets you jump into river for a swim, and similarly climb out. --TomiTapio 14:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Bandages

After getting cut up way more than is socially acceptable, I've concluded that you cannot use cloth to bandage a wound. If anyone can prove that they can, please, by all means revert my edit.

Adventure Mode Combat

or how to kill everything.

The Weapons There are many types of weapons; not all can kill and maim at the same level.

Swords are your jack of all trades weapon, doing reasonable slashing damage. The size of the blade helps in making bigger wound and dismembering foes.

subtypes

large dagger: Short sword long sword scimitar two-handed sword

large dagger: small weak shallow cuts and stabs, at best a fall back blade, at worst throw it at someone. NOTE uses dagger skill, not sword skill. 

Short swords: are the weakest true sword, but are still good for use fighting wolfs and the like, just don't take it to fight a dragon.

Long sword: it's longer and so it cuts deeper and dismembers more.

Scimitar: ok this is just as good as the short sword but with the ability to slap with the side of the blade.

Two-handed: sword 5 times the cutting power of the short sword,it stabs go in 2 time as far, truly this is the king swords

Axes

ok a lot like swords but bigger and better when fighting armor.

subtypes

battle axe:  a bigger and heavier axe.

great axe: bigger and better than the battle axe.

halberd: the oddball of the axes it has a smaller edge but can stab as well as chop, think of the offspring of a Short sword and a spear.

Spears ok the spear ot as good or as bad as it was,yes no endless Stick-ins but no more stabbing every internal organs in one blow.

subtypes

spear: a poor anti-group weapon but a great single enemy weapon as it is extreamly fast and can each successful hit has a large chance to stun the enemy and sense it is a piercing weapon it slides through armor like a hot arrow through a tub of lard therefor giving you an essentially unstoppable weapon .

pike: it stabs a little deeper and uses pike skill but is the same thing essentially.

hammers good at smashing stuff and fighting armor. for blunt weapons their weight is the main factor.

subtypes

war hammer: with skill to can put nice holes in heads.

mace: has more weight than the warhammer, in skilled hands Goblins shatter like glass. In less skilled hands it's bruising. 

maul: a bigger mace,now hit stuff harder.

flail: mace on a chain,hit them not you.

morning star: spiked ball on a chain cuts as it smashes.

other weapons the odd one.

whip: shatters the bone,bruise the flesh.

pick: goes in deep,rips organs ,shatters bones. fear the miners.

scourge: tears muscle,breaks bones.

--Funk edited by nightwatcher

Worldgen for Adventurers

It might be a good idea to have a section on worldgen parameters and settings that are useful to adventurers.

For ex: I always set CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN and CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN to 15 instead of 0, this gives a much less maze-like feel to the underground, allowing you to travel with only occasional side-trips to get around an impassible region. It's not so hot for fortress mode, since it's harder to wall out the nasties, but still doable.

I also set CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX to 80 -- it costs a bit in framerate when you enter a region and the underground water begins to flow, but a 100% flooded region once prevented me from using the 'T'ravel trick to escape the underworld. It told me I couldn't fast travel because I was swimming, and the region square I was on had not a single tile of dry land. (A fairly common thing with this set to 100%) Wound up having to backtrack for hours. (This was before I tried the openness and passage density params, though.) This also seems to me to give slightly more natural-shaped underground pools.

Maybe a mention of MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN and NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN, which will get you more interesting stuff to kill, or ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE, which keeps you from having to talk to people to find caves.

BEAST_END_YEAR is handy, too -- an adventurer probably doesn't care if the world still has a ton of megabeasts. Hey, they're not invading his house, right? It defaults to not ending worldgen until 80% of all megabeasts are dead, but I usually reduce that to 50 or less.

You don't want to have worldgen end too early, though. I find ending the worldgen early (like pre-500) leaves tons of megabeasts, but also gives you nearly empty cavern layers.

Finally, I find boosting the SAVAGERY minimum to about 10 is a good idea for adventurers, since it means less time spent trudging through empty forest when you're hunting, while not going to the insane step-WOLFAMBUSH-step-WOLFAMBUSH-step extreme.

--Anonymous July 30, 2010

The Basics

I think it would be worth adding a paragraph or two describing the basics of Adventurer mode. What it is, and most importantly, how to start it. (Can it be started if a Fortress game is in progress?) -- Anonymous 2010-08-02

I definitely agree. I've spent around half an hour trying to 'g'et prickleberries etc, starving to death while my human (who only started with copper spear and dagger, apparently due to hitting 'play now') merrily ignites everything. Getting a waterskin is nearly impossible, as there are no towns for miles in every direction from my starting place. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but none of this really basic stuff is covered here.

• drink/lick the blood spatters off your clothes, for survival. --TomiTapio 10:01, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Small Bugs - Conversations, Other little niggles

What's the wiki's policy on minor bugs? I found that in adventurer mode, asking peasants their profession makes them reply "I am a .", presumably because they have no job. Should I post that here, or is that too small? I can imagine the list getting full quick otherwise.

Ah - and apparently you can hold two things in one hand - although you need to juggle your inventory round to do it. Weird.

priesthood

There's more to say on the subject, but most of it is better suited to a separate article on religion. It could be pared down to the basics dealing with quest finding, even though they don't currently give quests, the info could lay a foundation for it in future releases.DokEnkephalin 17:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Companions limited to 2?

While in adventure mode I was playing as a human. I was able to convince a swordsman and a hammerman to join me. When trying to convince another hammerman to join me, he told me "With a band so large, what share of the glory would I have?"

Does this mean that the companion limit has been decreased?

--98.144.80.228 16:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

• This happened for me, too. I've tried it using dwarves and elves, and I was only ever able to get 2 followers. Gasheegooger 23:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
• Deon managed to get seven followers. --TomiTapio 09:58, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
• The number of followers you can get is determined by your notoriety; when you first start out you'll only be able to get two warriors to join your band, but once you get some tasks under your belt and slay a dragon or two you can have upward of fifteen. More may be possible but I sort of figured 15 was enough and stopped there. 72.230.201.43 20:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
• I am not able to get more than 19 companions, even after slaying lots of megabeasts. 19 seems to be the absolute maximum --Blur 13:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
• I once had 20 companions (I had to page down with * on the companions screen to see my 20th guy). When one of them died during a raid on a bandit camp, I went to a fortress for a replacement and was surprised to find soldiers giving me the "With a band so large" line, even after reporting my success! At first I thought I had somehow lowered my fame by completing one of my earlier leftover "kill the bandit" quests I got from a peasant after accepting a "slay the dragon" quest from a lord. On a later adventurer I managed to get 4 companions without completing any quests or doing anything else that would increase my fame, and then I theorized that what really happened was that I had accidentally exploited a bug regarding companions leaving and re-joining. With this new adventurer, I raided a bandit camp with 2 companions and found myself hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned. One got knocked unconscious with a bruised brain, the other was still standing but severely cut up, likely to bleed out shortly (he was "Pale"). I turned tail and ran, intending to get some new companions from the nearby fortress. Because they were still alive, I knew I'd have to ditch my current companions to be able to pick up new companions. By the time I was far away enough from the site to Travel, the cut-up guy was off my companions list, and the other guy was still unconscious, meaning he wouldn't follow me in travel mode. I get to the fortress with 0 companions, pick up 2 new ones, and head back to the camp, approaching from the same side I had previously fled from. As I approached the center of the camp, I started getting announcements of my previous companions still fighting the bandits. When I got within visual range, not only did I see they had recovered (with massive scars, but no longer suffering from concussion or blood loss), they still had the "companion" character (instead of the usual "U" for non-allied humans). I checked the companions list, and sure enough, all 4 were listed. Although I wasn't paying attention, I think something similar happened with the earlier adventurer with 20 companions, although it did not involve Travel. It was probably when I slept at a fortress, when I woke up one of my companions was outside the fortress walls. I then wandered to the middle of the fortress looking for more companions, moving far enough from the wall that the outside companion disappeared off my companions list, but still tried following me, making his way around the fortress edge. After gathering up my maximum of 19 companions, I headed for the fortress doors, where I met up with that other companion who had been outside, bringing my number of companions to 20. If my theory about how this bug works is correct, there may be no limit to how many companions you can have. The two exploit methods I stumbled on by accident probably aren't very reliable though, as the first depends on luck and the second could leave you with some severely crippled companions. I've thought up some methods to test, but they also slightly rely on luck to work:

1) Sleep in a town/hamlet, and hope you wake up before your companions (perhaps sleeping while they are Drowsy and you are not will help?). Travel as soon as you wake up, get replacement companions from a fortress, return to the hamlet to see if you can still get your original companions back.

2) Find a fortress near a river. Stop traveling on the riverbank opposite the fortress, swim across, enter fortress, pick up new companions (by the time you reach the fortress, you should be far enough from the river that your companions are off the list), return to the river and see if your old companions are still hanging out, Travel to get your full group across the river to wherever you're going next.

--MightyJAK 18:30, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

"<Adventurer> was guided by forces unknown"

That says if you check out your dead adventurer in legends.

• Yep, one of Armok's little helpers guided the person. --TomiTapio 10:01, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

tips and tricks in.31.17

Some vanilla .17 adventuring... this might be helpful to you.

1. start a demigod adventurer. Buy agility and dodging. Surrounded == dead.
2. run away from bogeymen, leave the low-agility ones far behind.
3. no adventurer can ever start with armor, it seems.

4. try aimed ("A") easy attacks, stab torso with sword. Or slash at foot/hand. Miss because bogeymen have very good dodging skills.
5. use trees to force enemies into single file.
6. "C" change combat mode to strike instead of charge. Charging makes you trip and fall often.

8. one bogeyman is about as difficult as .16 's elephant/ogre/giant/marshtitan. Because of dodging skill.
9. fighting skill may give you lots of nice counterstrikes. You might want to practice fighting with slow-moving wildlife (not camels!)
10. "mortal wound" means internal organ bruising, not dangerous, unlike "CANT STAND".
11. haul bogeyman body parts to town to show off.

12. inside a crowded building, would need a "swap places with friendly" key so can move around.
Quote from: Miko19: You can press "s" to lay on the ground, and then you can move on the same tile as an other person is
Oookay... crawl under the moronic humans who cower inside their houses, check.

13. goblins and dwarven bandits are nothing compared to bogeymen. (Or my skills got really high already.)
14. cross the rivers and streams in travel mode, not with swimming.
15. go thank Toady for adding bandits and "The quest for armor".

16. some humans are morons and block doorways for hours on end.
17. wear shirt, dress, dress, dress, robe for "protection".
18. ask the cyan-coloured humans (who have no profession) to join you.
19. your human companions will have a longer sight range than you, at least at night when the felines attack.
20. wear one more dress. And two togas.
21. the red-cross-blinking cyan @ draws you eye away from the brown, dirt-coloured @. And the companion will crawl miles and miles, matching your speed, faithfully following you.

Q for quest log, z to see where the quest target is. Esc to exit quest log.
Z, d, enter to sleep the night.

ps. some of these notes are more like bug reports to Toady. --TomiTapio 09:58, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

.31.17 peasant/hero/demigod, thoughts

About the adventurer... think of "peasant" as "joe average who was the worst learner in the whole county". Novice in seven skills after many years of trying.
A "hero" could be a circus strongman, strong and tough, or a tumbler (acrobat) with superior agility and above average patience and focus, adequate in eight skills due to 1-2 years of training as a teenager.
A "demigod" is one in a thousand, competent in nine skills, perhaps a former soldier with five years of experience. Or proficient in 4.5 skills (not even a legendary in fortress mode, that soldier.)--TomiTapio 11:43, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Info on diff. between Adv Mode & Dwarf Mode

In adding some minor information to the Quick Start guide, I fell upon a conundrum. In that article I wanted to add a fair bit more information, but I wasn't sure that it belonged there (likely not as part of a quick start guide). Indeed, I'm not sure where to put them at all, whether they deserved their own page. I am thinking about: attributes and skills, which deserves more depth than what is necessary for dwarf mode (such as suggested skills to invest in, and the function of such skills and attributes in adventure mode); the benefits of the various races (which is not even covered in this article); probably known "quirks", such as the virtual non-existance of "small" equipment for use by dwarves and that goblins are a source; among other things. Should they simply get their own page so they can belong specifically to an Adventure Mode category, or perhaps add an "In Adventure Mode" section to the relevant pages in order to detail those differences?
I ask this question here since this seem to be a bit of catch all discussion area for adventure mode. Seemed better suited to it than the Quick Start discussion page, anyway.

Niveras 02:21, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

This is weird. I thought demigods were not allowed starting companions like heroes -- I tested it with two different demigods and the townspeople consistently gave me "I would....rather not" when asked about joining before I had completed any quest, and edited the page to reflect that. Yet, someone changed the edit back saying they *always* take two companions when playing demigod. Can anyone else test? Is that right? Am I subject to a bug?

Anonymous, Nov 15

I'm the one who made that edit, I think your problem is you were trying to recruit regular townspeople; look around towns/hamets for some actual fighters, or head to a fortress and try to recruit them there. It takes a while before you can get non-fighters to come with you, because whether they join you or not doesn't depend on how much stronger you are than them like in previous versions, but by how famous you are for being a hero, and they know they're weak and probably just cannonfodder unless you're a legend. Or at least that's my theory. I do admit that I haven't played any Peasant-class or Hero-class adventurers yet, so I can't say there is no difference between their abilities to recruit, but I can say for sure that I can get two swordsmen before I do a quest with my demigods. 72.230.201.43 19:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Ghost towns?

Is it a bug that I found ghost towns? Towns where there were no surviving inhabitants, but the stores are still stocked (and the items owned so I couldn't purchase anything without theft.) Was everyone just out in the fields or something?

(Also, I found a phantom hamlet, which I'm pretty sure *is* a bug. It showed up on the world map, but not the travel map. The local map had a pointer to the town, and as I walked there I hit the center but there were no buildings or people. It was safe to sleep, though, thankfully, 'cause I'd just lost all my companions to a troll attack and the sun had gone down.)

-- Anonymous, November 14, 7:08 pm pacific time

Difficulty settings

What exactly are the differences between Peasant, Hero, and Demigod difficulties?

I am fairly sure the only difference between them are the number of points you begin with to divide among your attributes and skills. 72.230.201.43 02:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Further testing may be needed. I've gone through a spate of demigods who died suddenly, while my current character, a peasant, has developed very well through skill training and has lived long enough to get a nearly full set of steel armor in dwarf size. I don't know if he's been plain lucky, or I'm getting better, or if there's some mitigating factor in the code that takes it easier on peasants than demigods. -Anonymous, 20 November 2010

Seconding this. At first glance, it appears that Demigod is easymode and Peasant is hardmode, but I've had similar experiences to Anonymous above. Even with good armor and high starting levels in Armor User, Shield User, and Dodger, many of my Demigods get OHKOed by the first bandit they come across, with the bandit getting a lucky shot at the brain or heart right away. I'm thinking either Demigods get sent after more skillful bandits for initial quests, or Toady programmed in a hidden "Luck" stat to be high for peasants and low for Demigods. Alternate theory: this "Luck" stat is not determined by your choice of Peasant, Hero, or Demigod, but by how many stat and skill points you actually use. In that case, making an adventurer with every skill at "Not" and every stat at "Very Low" would give you a super-lucky weakling. I think I'll test this and report back. --MightyJAK 15:01, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Starting Armor

From 31.17 and continuing in 31.18, is it correct that adventurers only start with leather clothes and never any metal armor except for a shield? - Anonymous, 18 November 2010, 3:14 UTC

Having played about a dozen characters, this appears to be true. Currently you've got to find armor in shops, lairs, caves, and bandit camps. - Anonymous, 20 November 2010

Equipping

I cannot find a way to equip a weapon.... And i searched all over the wiki and i still cannot find any place where it tells me how to equip a weapon. Any help??? -- Anonymous 198.53.163.246, 08:27 UTC, 28 November 2010

Anything held in your hands is an available weapon. Drop what's in your hands on the ground (or 'p'ut it in a container if you have one that has room) and then get your weapon -- either 'g'etting it off the ground or 'r'emoving it from a container. It will automatically go into your primary hand (depending on handedness; DF has a lot of lefties) and be used as a weapon. Then grab your shield if you use one, or offhand weapon if you're training another skill, or leave that hand empty for choking throats if you like. -- Anonymous 74.37.93.115, 28 Nov 2010

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This article is terrible

it doesnt describe much of any of the specifics of adventure mode, its all generalized ideas on the basic concept of it, with a sprinkling of various outdated versions thrown in for good measure. There needs to be a section on the (Q)uest section (which even i dont really get that still, companions, basic combat strategy's, and a whole crap load of other st00f. --Dudemcman 05:18, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Alright i'll have time to work on this page in about a week. In the meantime suggestions anybody? LightBearer 18:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit I know I said I'd be working on this by now but im still working on testing for a new jewelry page so maybe ill have time in another week...LightBearer 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I've started to work on it, but don't hold your breath. . . Freya 12:56, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Companions choose the innocent over you.

In my experiences, attacking civilians will cause your companions to turn on you, but they still flash blue (i use maydays graphics, so its blue for me atleast), and try to kill you, im not sure how they react if you attack a soldier in a castle, or a town. more testing needed. --Dudemcman 05:22, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

They still attack you. I dare you to kill a lord/lady/other royal person. Everyone'll be out to get you. --ANormalUsername1 21:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Backpacks

It seems that if you are caught in frost wyrm breath, your backpack will be damaged and disappear. Also, removing one's backpack (in an effort to leave it outside the lair and pick it back up when exiting) causes it to disappear as well.

what mod is this? also leave the backpack just inside the lair. Anything left Anywhere that is not A in a lair, B in a camp or C in a cave will disappear forever. and sign your talk LightBearer 06:03, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Trading problem?

I tried to trade with clerk and sold something for 7 coins, picked up the coin traded again but when I get things for 4 coins ten when i offer 4 coins he says "perchaps if you throw some more goods i can make an offer"what i am doing wrong?85.222.75.88 13:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I now checked and i can't buy anything! I Tried to buy spiny dogfish leather skirt (1 coin) and i gave ashen shest full of money which was worth 12 coins and he sais the same thing! 85.222.75.88 14:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

The trade screen shows weight, not value. If you're getting that message you don't have enough coins altogether. At least, I think that's your problem. 68.42.236.142 23:34, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Nobody home?

Heya, I've been wandering around in the adventurer mode for ages now, and seem to come across empty 'Dark Fortresses', 'Mountain Homes' and 'Forest Retreats'. So far as I can see, only human settlements and castles are there. All the other sites, aside from lairs, caves and the occasional bandit camp, are completely void of any life or buildings whatsoever.

12:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Bandit leader ran away

Playing as an "ambusher" adventurer, I seem to encounter this problem at least once per world. I take a quest to kill a bandit leader, proceed to murder all of his companions, but get spotted along the way. If instead of attacking me he runs away and I'm too slow to catch up, is there any way to find him later? The adventure log still points to the deserted camp, and my plan to stalk him through Legends mode didn't work because the current world has "Reveal all history" set to 0.

If you wait a while the leader might return to his camp, or he may ambush you if you travel around near the camp. However, it's possible neither of these will happen if you really did kill every single one of his companions. If the leader only runs when all of his friends are dead, you may be able to prevent this situation by sneaking around the companions and trying to take the leader out first. If the leader has his buddies too close (meaning you'd get slaughtered if you get spotted), you could bring some companions of your own to take the heat off you. When your companions are spotted, swing around sideways to stay hidden and sneak up behind the boss. Then even if you are spotted, the leader's buddies will be too busy dealing with your buddies to be able to interfere with your 1-on-1 duel. This strategy works best with archer-type leaders, as melee leaders are likely to charge your companions first, leaving flunkies behind to cover their flank. Sorry I couldn't be more help, even when I play ambush-style I never have the problem (the leader sometimes runs, but I always catch him).--MightyJAK 19:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Wounds on Foes in Adventure?

Recently started playing Adventure mode and am loving it really. Though I do have to say, I'm wondering if there's a way to check wounds on my opponents in battle, or if I just have to guess based on the combat logs in announcements. As a newbie to the game it's probably astounding I've made it past the 6 hour mark, but this still confuses me and the want to see the enemies gain wounds as I slowly slice them apart is all-consuming. Anyone know if I'm doing something wrong, or care to give me a tip to make it work better?

You can look at your enemy to see what parts of their body have been damaged and check their current status. Refer here to decipher the color codes. All wounds also appear on creature's description page with more details, such as whether the body part is bruised, cut apart or missing. However, the most detailed description of each wound can only be found in the log.

No warriors?

For some reason in adventurer mode for me, no warriors seem to spawn. I've gone to fortresses, towns, and none of them have had any warriors whatsoever. This makes it very hard for me to survive the night, as you need companions to not get attacked by the bogeymen, and no one else will join you. Please help me out on this. It used to work, and it seems to be a recent problem. --Aardvarkperson 5:16 PM 3/26/2011

If you have a world with a history that's longer than 100 years or so, forts are likely to be abandoned. Try playing with a world with "Medium" history length. --Ral 06:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

I've got a world in year 1050 with no abandoned fortresses, but that may just be because the human civilizations have been very successful. On the other hand, I've also generated a world with minimum savagery set to 16, and even though humans were still pretty successful (HUGE sprawling towns and hamlets), every fortress I've explored has been infested with Lions and Rhinos.--MightyJAK 13:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Reorganization

If there are no objections I will work on reorganizing and improving this article tomorrow. --Ral 03:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Many updates made

Major updates and rewrite. Comments requested. --Ral 06:21, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Levels of sleepiness

As I played, I thought there were three main levels of sleepiness: Tired, Drowsy, and Very Drowsy. And then I was running a macro to walk back and forth inside some guys house (I needed to train crutch-walking) and I discovered a new level: Slumberous. On the main screen, the status is Sleep! and is flashing red an purple and on my z-screen it's Slumberous and is also red and purple. It also took my character OVER A FULL WEEK of sleeping to get less sleepy. (The script file I was running was over 200 kilobytes of 82). On the plus side, I'm now Legendary+ something crutch-walker. (I need 4600 exp for next level, and I don't know what that translates to off the top of my head) --Waladil 17:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Sex?

Does gender make any difference in adventure mode?

I assume you can't marry or sleep with people... (yet?) 89.242.74.114 12:45, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

No, it would only really matter if you used a series of hacks to get your adventure mode character into a fortress where he/she could breed or something. I suppose in theory if you just retired the adventurer and ran time by enough years by hanging around in fortress mode for a long time then maybe they could have a kid but I'm not sure if you could even find their kid. So essentially it doesn't matter. --Ral 19:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Getting stuck in a fortress? Come on!

Well, looks like an npc got all trappy and decided to close a hatch, and i tried EVERYTHING to open it, and it fails... so i'm pretty much stuck. Guess Toady didn't think about an open command when he made them with hatches. Unless theres a way to open them that i haven't found. Any help? --Hugna 09:36, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

OMG this has just happened to me too. A drunk human managed to close the hatch just as my dwarf came up to a tower top, and immediately this stupid human... keeled over! Now the dwarf is stuck up on the tower like a f...ing Rapunzel! Can't believe it. --tivasyk 10:20, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Precious water

I have recently tried to fill my waterskin from a brook. And it filled with 1800 units of water at once! Thank goodness in .25 adventurer doesn't need to drink, for if i had to carry this around it would break my back. I wonder if this is a bug? But I found some good use for it: since every item is worth at shops at least one dwarfbuck, I was able to sell water from the waterskin for 1800¤! And then i walked five steps to the brook and refilled it again. I guess this may be a good source of money. --95.221.130.130 11:13, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Getting steel armor in Adventurer mode

I've heard people say "get your companions killed and grab their armor", but so far I've only seen human fort with human soldier, which use iron armor in human ("large" for dwarf) size. Shops only sell iron ones too.

So how do I get steel armor, or better, "large" steel armor for human adventurer?

Also, is there any penalty for wearing the wrong sized armor?

Alas, humanity don't know steel. And you can't wear garments of improper size at all. So to obtain best armor you have to start as a dwarf. --93.175.6.75 19:15, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Traders Stealing Stuff?

So, I just traded for some items and, being new, accidentally left the shop. When I came back after realizing my blunder, I found the item I purchased to be owned by the shop again! Filthy traders be stealin' my stuff! Also, I know it's the right shop because I found all the items I sold there. Bug or am I just an idiot at the wrong shop (somehow)?

Turns out I'm an idiot. The items I purchased were hidden down the list and I wasn't aware I could scroll it. :/ Valaramech 17:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Sneak + Wrestle = Win? (with story)

So I was in a fight with a master swordsman and my skills were far below his. The fight went on so long, it fell to nighttime and we were both tired (I assume he was too...). He managed to stab my upper right arm >several< times, but otherwise he couldn't penetrate my armor. He kept rolling and dodging my attacks, but an unfortunate roll slammed him into a tree and it gave me an opportunity to stab both his feet. He managed to get up and responded by another stab in my right arm, my weapon being dropped. I turned and ran and was about 20 tiles away when the excitement of the battle (we're talking 300+ turns of combat!) made me turn back. At this point, I noticed that I was able to sneak somehow (obstructed view?) from less than 20 tiles away, and knew I couldn't beat him in my current condition, without my sword.

I snuck up to him, and with Novice Wrestler skill, I grabbed and broke both his arms without a single fail or "adjust grip" or being spotted. Even with his weapons disabled, I broke my sneak and tried to strike him with my shield hand (complete fail), he turns around and bites my wounded right arm, and I finally fall unconscious. Before I come to, he spends about a half-dozen turns kicking me in the head and body, giving me some serious wounds. I break distance, drop shield, pick up sword with my good arm, approach him LIKE A BOSS without fear, stabbed his lower body (fell to the ground), upper body (falls unconscious), then a slash to the head decapitated him.

The good: I gained a ton of skills experience from just one fight, and an epic one at that. The bad: It was night and attempting to get to town got me torn apart by bogeymen. :(

Anyway, my swordsman skill as being Proficient was clearly not a match for my opponent and I missed over 95% of all attacks, but a Novice in wrestling while sneaking had literally given a 100% success rate. I should've kept going and strangled him. My question is, is wrestling while ambushing (I was a Legendary Ambusher, of course) bugged to be no-fail? I don't like wrestling since I'd rather be a Legendary Swordsman rather than a Legendary Wrestler who uses a sword. 72.189.39.24 16:36, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Infections?

I suspect that the answer is no, but is there any way to combat infection in Adventurer once you've already been infected? It's quite disappointing to be walking around for weeks with several broken/smashed apart appendages that simply refuse to heal.

Elf Traders In Human Towns?

While looking for a nice sword I came upon these elven miscreants in the shops. Another thing I found odd, was they were selling human goods. I let the world generate 10000 years if that makes any difference. Is this common?