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Cleaning appears to be functionally similar to the previous version so far, with a few exceptions: | Cleaning appears to be functionally similar to the previous version so far, with a few exceptions: | ||
* dwarves no longer clean adjacent tiles in addition to the tile they are standing on - only the tile they're on becomes cleaned; | * dwarves no longer clean adjacent tiles in addition to the tile they are standing on - only the tile they're on becomes cleaned; | ||
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==Clean Self== | ==Clean Self== | ||
− | Now that dwarves will clean themselves as well as the fort, we need to cover this. Would it be better as a separate article, or as a section here (with a redirect here from | + | Now that dwarves will clean themselves as well as the fort, we need to cover this. Would it be better as a separate article, or as a section here (with a redirect here from [[v0.31:Clean self]])? --[[User:FunkyWaltDogg|FunkyWaltDogg]] 15:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC) |
:In my opinion, it should stay in the cleaning area, as it is related to cleaning. However, it is of little value, considering Clean Self is bugged when you finally make soap for dwarves to clean themselves with. Still, yes it can be split if people want it split, but it would probably turn into a vote later on. --[[User:Hugna|Hugna]] 23:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC) | :In my opinion, it should stay in the cleaning area, as it is related to cleaning. However, it is of little value, considering Clean Self is bugged when you finally make soap for dwarves to clean themselves with. Still, yes it can be split if people want it split, but it would probably turn into a vote later on. --[[User:Hugna|Hugna]] 23:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::I haven't been playing very long, but nobody in either of my forts has had a problem using soap on themselves. The notes for 31.22 from 04/24/11 state, "Stopped inaccessible spam from cleaning jobs with soap." I think that bug was squashed. I have no preference on the splitting proposal, though. [[User:JasonMel|JasonMel]] 21:17, 25 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
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+ | The section "Cleaning Your Dwarves" recommends using a bathtub filled to 3/7. I was wondering why the recommendation would not be to fill it to somewhere between 4/7 and 6/7, since the [[Swimmer]] page gives those depths as the ones that will safely exercise swimming skill. [[User:JasonMel|JasonMel]] 21:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
+ | :At 4-6/7, the dwarfs will not enter the tub on their own. Using a tub filled to 3/7, dwarfs will walk through the water and be cleaned. --[[Special:Contributions/74.102.139.145|74.102.139.145]] 04:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
== Cleaning should be an assignable job == | == Cleaning should be an assignable job == | ||
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:I've heard people say constructed walkable tiles have a higher priority for cleaning than natural ones.[[Special:Contributions/99.115.139.116|99.115.139.116]] 20:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC) | :I've heard people say constructed walkable tiles have a higher priority for cleaning than natural ones.[[Special:Contributions/99.115.139.116|99.115.139.116]] 20:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::On 31.25 I'm seeing dirt tiles being cleaned. It could be that a possible trigger is a dwarf changing to no job at the spot that needs cleaning. [[User:Pierre Monteux|Pierre Monteux]] 03:19, 20 December 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Grates allowing contaminants to drain == | == Grates allowing contaminants to drain == | ||
They do not. pools of blood, dust, and ichor are perfectly capable of hovering over empty space, as well as staying on empty space covered by a grate.[[Special:Contributions/99.115.139.116|99.115.139.116]] 20:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC) | They do not. pools of blood, dust, and ichor are perfectly capable of hovering over empty space, as well as staying on empty space covered by a grate.[[Special:Contributions/99.115.139.116|99.115.139.116]] 20:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | == Cleaning scheme == | ||
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+ | In my recent fort, I built a slaughter room underground to safely dispose of invaders, grab their equipment, and clean up the resulting mess. However, while the first two parts worked (trapped invaders, trained marksdwarves, and collected reward), my dwarves never actually cleaned the room for maybe one season. I designated a meeting zone, and the dwarves idling around there immediately went to work (I should mention that I had a dedicated cleaner). So it seems to me that dwarves only clean up if they have no job and see some pollution. [[User:Qwertyu|Qwertyu]] 13:43, 10 January 2011 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 23:26, 7 March 2013
Changes[edit]
Cleaning appears to be functionally similar to the previous version so far, with a few exceptions:
- dwarves no longer clean adjacent tiles in addition to the tile they are standing on - only the tile they're on becomes cleaned;
- blood, ichor, and vomit no longer vanish on season-change, and rain only removes the liquids from the tile it hits
Volouscheur 21:12, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- The second part of #2 is how it's always been - even in 40d, rain would clean away any outdoor blood and vomit 1 tile at a time. --Quietust 21:37, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- Every time one of my dwarves has cleaned a tile, they also clean the tiles adjacent to it, including walls. --Telarin 19:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Clean Self[edit]
Now that dwarves will clean themselves as well as the fort, we need to cover this. Would it be better as a separate article, or as a section here (with a redirect here from v0.31:Clean self)? --FunkyWaltDogg 15:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- In my opinion, it should stay in the cleaning area, as it is related to cleaning. However, it is of little value, considering Clean Self is bugged when you finally make soap for dwarves to clean themselves with. Still, yes it can be split if people want it split, but it would probably turn into a vote later on. --Hugna 23:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- I haven't been playing very long, but nobody in either of my forts has had a problem using soap on themselves. The notes for 31.22 from 04/24/11 state, "Stopped inaccessible spam from cleaning jobs with soap." I think that bug was squashed. I have no preference on the splitting proposal, though. JasonMel 21:17, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The section "Cleaning Your Dwarves" recommends using a bathtub filled to 3/7. I was wondering why the recommendation would not be to fill it to somewhere between 4/7 and 6/7, since the Swimmer page gives those depths as the ones that will safely exercise swimming skill. JasonMel 21:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
- At 4-6/7, the dwarfs will not enter the tub on their own. Using a tub filled to 3/7, dwarfs will walk through the water and be cleaned. --74.102.139.145 04:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Cleaning should be an assignable job[edit]
I should be able to [d]esignate cleaning. It could work exactly like smoothing stone, and utilize a cleaning ability. Only dwarves tasked with Cleaning would perform the task. Vomit and blood could give a negative thought to encourage cleaning.--208.81.12.34 18:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Suggestions should be posted where the people who can implement them can see, it's not going to be seen here, sadly. Mason (T-C) 18:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Cleanable tiles[edit]
It seems to me that dorfs won't clean soil, just rock. It doesn't seem to matter whether it's natural rock, or built rock; so building stone flooring over the top of soil (where possible) is a good way of making your dorfs keep your fortress clean.
Anybody want to confirm this/add it to the article?
- I've heard people say constructed walkable tiles have a higher priority for cleaning than natural ones.99.115.139.116 20:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- On 31.25 I'm seeing dirt tiles being cleaned. It could be that a possible trigger is a dwarf changing to no job at the spot that needs cleaning. Pierre Monteux 03:19, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Grates allowing contaminants to drain[edit]
They do not. pools of blood, dust, and ichor are perfectly capable of hovering over empty space, as well as staying on empty space covered by a grate.99.115.139.116 20:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Cleaning scheme[edit]
In my recent fort, I built a slaughter room underground to safely dispose of invaders, grab their equipment, and clean up the resulting mess. However, while the first two parts worked (trapped invaders, trained marksdwarves, and collected reward), my dwarves never actually cleaned the room for maybe one season. I designated a meeting zone, and the dwarves idling around there immediately went to work (I should mention that I had a dedicated cleaner). So it seems to me that dwarves only clean up if they have no job and see some pollution. Qwertyu 13:43, 10 January 2011 (UTC)