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::Since we're being pedantic, why not point out that even though it makes a certain amount of sense, once thought about, the fact that "eating the poison... is perfectly safe" is still counterintuitive, as one's intuition would be to keep it out of contact with one's critters entirely. BAM! You got '''logic'd!''' --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 11:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC) | ::Since we're being pedantic, why not point out that even though it makes a certain amount of sense, once thought about, the fact that "eating the poison... is perfectly safe" is still counterintuitive, as one's intuition would be to keep it out of contact with one's critters entirely. BAM! You got '''logic'd!''' --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 11:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Ah, but then you get snake charmers who drink snake venom quite often with no ill effects. In fact, it's apparently a good source of protein. --[[User:Libelnon|Libelnon]] 14:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC) | :::Ah, but then you get snake charmers who drink snake venom quite often with no ill effects. In fact, it's apparently a good source of protein. --[[User:Libelnon|Libelnon]] 14:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::::Seems people need to research poison vs venom. Venom is injected generally, while poison is consumed. I.E. a poisonous bird isn't a problem and can happily live with you, unless you eat it... at which point you'd die. However a venomous bird would need to BITE you to cause issue. However some animals DO cross this line and are both. | ||
== Unreliable advice? == | == Unreliable advice? == | ||
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=="Helmet snake"== | =="Helmet snake"== | ||
| − | My helmet snake could use that kind of attention.[[User:JohnnyMadhouse|JohnnyMadhouse]] 14:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC) | + | My helmet snake could use that kind of attention. [[User:JohnnyMadhouse|JohnnyMadhouse]] 14:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | :''Helmet snake poison can quickly cripple an invader with [[v0.31:Morning sickness|constant pain and vomiting]]. ... Helmet snakes are perfectly safe to [[v0.31:Fellatio|eat]], however.'' | ||
==A 'small' snake?== | ==A 'small' snake?== | ||
How can it be a small snake when it has the same body mass as a sheep? :| That's one big ass snake! [[Special:Contributions/90.218.171.35|90.218.171.35]] | How can it be a small snake when it has the same body mass as a sheep? :| That's one big ass snake! [[Special:Contributions/90.218.171.35|90.218.171.35]] | ||
: It doesn't get that big until it's 60 years old, at which point it will probably have died of old age. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC) | : It doesn't get that big until it's 60 years old, at which point it will probably have died of old age. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC) | ||
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"Eating the poison itself, counterintuitively, is also perfectly safe, due to the way the game handles poisons." This could make more sense than it seems. The poison causes necrotosis, therefore would require to be in the muscle tissue or bloodstream. The dwarven digestive system could contain an acid strong enough to dissolve the poison, or the mucous lining of the stomach and digestive tract could be strong enough to repel the poison. And yes. I am starting a disscussion over dwarven anatomy. --Libelnon 10:03, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Since we're being pedantic, why not point out that even though it makes a certain amount of sense, once thought about, the fact that "eating the poison... is perfectly safe" is still counterintuitive, as one's intuition would be to keep it out of contact with one's critters entirely. BAM! You got logic'd! --Zombiejustice 11:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, but then you get snake charmers who drink snake venom quite often with no ill effects. In fact, it's apparently a good source of protein. --Libelnon 14:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Seems people need to research poison vs venom. Venom is injected generally, while poison is consumed. I.E. a poisonous bird isn't a problem and can happily live with you, unless you eat it... at which point you'd die. However a venomous bird would need to BITE you to cause issue. However some animals DO cross this line and are both.
- Ah, but then you get snake charmers who drink snake venom quite often with no ill effects. In fact, it's apparently a good source of protein. --Libelnon 14:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Since we're being pedantic, why not point out that even though it makes a certain amount of sense, once thought about, the fact that "eating the poison... is perfectly safe" is still counterintuitive, as one's intuition would be to keep it out of contact with one's critters entirely. BAM! You got logic'd! --Zombiejustice 11:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Unreliable advice?[edit]
The article describes the dangers of helmet snakes in significant detail, as well as providing advice on how to use them against enemies, but helmet snakes don't actually exist because they lack the [LARGE_ROAMING] token in their raws, so all of this advice seems rather suspect. --Quietust 15:53, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- The way I see it, it's possible that somebody added the necessary tokens to the raws to make helmet snakes exist specifically so they could spade helmet snakes. Still not really viable advice all things considered.--Eurytus 21:52, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
I have a helmet snake in a cavern in one of my fortresses, has it been newly added as of a new patch?--115.64.124.141 04:43, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- They were properly enabled in version 0.31.15. --Quietust 18:34, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
"Helmet snake"[edit]
My helmet snake could use that kind of attention. JohnnyMadhouse 14:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Helmet snake poison can quickly cripple an invader with constant pain and vomiting. ... Helmet snakes are perfectly safe to eat, however.
A 'small' snake?[edit]
How can it be a small snake when it has the same body mass as a sheep? :| That's one big ass snake! 90.218.171.35
- It doesn't get that big until it's 60 years old, at which point it will probably have died of old age. --Quietust 15:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)