v0.34 Talk:Fire-safe

I believe this page should be merged into the Fire page as a subsection, leaving only the appropriate redirect. Reasons are:

• This page is rather small, as there is not much to be said. Since Fire is not a huge article, merging would result in a single, medium-sized article with all relevant information in one place.
• The only bits of info it is lacking are already present in the Fire page, and adding more to this article would only increase the amount of redundant information.
• It would also help to keep the information consistent if both pages were a single one.

I'd make the merge right now, but it's a pretty big change and I'm quite green in this wiki; to prevent controversy and newbie-bashing, I'll leave this here, if this message receives no (negative) answer in a few days, I'll merge the pages.
--Seikatsukan 22:26, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I like the fact you are asking, but in my opinion I'd say no, actually (just my 2 Dwarfbucks). There are specific requirements for "fire-safe" materials noted in-game, and I know that searching for the SPECIFIC in-game term has helped me many times. Fire and Fire-safe may seem integral but in fact the property of fire-safe is very useful to know, enough to warrant a separate page -- Kalon 02:42, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Good point; keeping separate pages, while resulting in redundant information, does help to find the information quicker than in a large page with a broader focus. Fair enough, I'll try and improve this page on it's own instead. Maybe a table of fire-safe materials like the one the magma-safe page has could be useful, and I want to try out how the always-cold Nether Cap wood interacts with fire and furnaces. --Seikatsukan 21:23, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I've been able to burn nether cap logs in a wood furnace with no issues, so unless this was changed in 34, furnaces do not take fixed temperature into account. -- Qazmlpok 19:01, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Good to know, but I was wondering more about Nether Cap coming in actual contact with fire. As far as I know, the game could be only checking for some kind of [WOOD] tag in order to turn it to ash/charcoal. After all, charcoal is not supposed to be fire-safe, yet you can build furnaces out of it (I have, and they work!). Kinda wonky, if you ask me. --Seikatsukan 21:26, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

The "fire-safe" check for job items is based entirely on the material's temperature properties, nothing else. The fact that charcoal claims to be fire-safe is technically due to a bug (which I reported several months ago and have now added to this article). Unless the job cancel messages for "Make Charcoal" and "Make Ash" actually say "Needs wood/plant logs", any type of log will do, even one made of metal - the output of those jobs is 100% hardcoded and has nothing to do with the input item. --Quietust 01:06, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

"Except for dragonfire, fire won't burn rock, metal, trees, unmined lignite or coal, constructions made from wood (wall, floor, etc)." ... i think the crux of the issue is that this sentence from the fire page is missing here.