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| − | '''Nobles''' are <s>snotty good-for-nothing parasites</s> dwarves appointed to office and rule over your fortress. They can make [[demand]]s and set [[mandate]]s which get in the way of the running of your fort, and get upset that other dwarves have nice rooms, but can also serve vital managerial roles. At least some of them. | + | '''Nobles''' are <s>snotty, good-for-nothing parasites</s> dwarves appointed to office and rule over your fortress. They can make [[demand]]s and set [[mandate]]s which get in the way of the running of your fort, and get upset that other dwarves have nice rooms, but can also serve vital managerial roles. At least some of them. |
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*'''#''' - lists whether one or more dwarves can have this position. Duke/Count/Baron don't have a number listed, but each fortress can only have one. | *'''#''' - lists whether one or more dwarves can have this position. Duke/Count/Baron don't have a number listed, but each fortress can only have one. | ||
*'''Squad''' - Lists the number and type of dwarf that this position leads | *'''Squad''' - Lists the number and type of dwarf that this position leads | ||
| − | *'''Spouse''' - Is this noble's spouse also considered a noble? | + | *'''Spouse''' - Is this noble's spouse also considered a noble? In 0.34.11, the titles of noble consorts are mere courtesy titles. No privileges are attached to them. |
| − | *'''Heir''' - Is this individual replaced by an heir when they die? | + | *'''Heir''' - Is this individual replaced by an heir when they die? Inheritance doesn't take place in fortresses right now. If a landed noble or monarch dies, that position is permanently erased. |
| − | *'''Appointed By''' - Which position appoints this person initially? Note that the player actually controls all appointments via the noble screen; this is, in effect, only which dwarf is ''necessary'' before the player can make the appointment. | + | *'''Appointed By''' - Which position appoints this person initially? Note that the player actually controls all appointments via the noble screen; this is, in effect, only which dwarf is ''necessary'' before the player can make the appointment. Barons aren't directly appointed but elevated (presumably by the mountainhome) upon recommendation of the player. They cannot be replaced via the 'n'obles screen. Once a baron/countess/duke dies, no new noble can be created, either. |
*'''Replaced By''' - What position replaces this one? | *'''Replaced By''' - What position replaces this one? | ||
*'''Pop Req''' - Minimum population required for this position to become available. | *'''Pop Req''' - Minimum population required for this position to become available. | ||
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*'''Lazy''' - If this dwarf is lazy they won't do any regular work aside from pulling levers, deconstructing walls, and some other things. In all 0.34.xx versions, this appears to be broken, i.e. "lazy" nobles can still be assigned to perform any labor. | *'''Lazy''' - If this dwarf is lazy they won't do any regular work aside from pulling levers, deconstructing walls, and some other things. In all 0.34.xx versions, this appears to be broken, i.e. "lazy" nobles can still be assigned to perform any labor. | ||
*'''Immunity''' - Immune dwarves aren't punished for any crimes. | *'''Immunity''' - Immune dwarves aren't punished for any crimes. | ||
| − | *'''Econ Exempt''' - These dwarves don't need money to pay for goods or rooms after the [[Economy]] arrives. | + | *'''Econ Exempt''' - These dwarves don't need money to pay for goods or rooms after the [[Economy]] arrives. The economy is currently disabled, so this privilege goes unused for now. |
*'''Military Screen Only''' - This position is only listed on the military screen. | *'''Military Screen Only''' - This position is only listed on the military screen. | ||
| − | *'''Jealous''' - These dwarves will become [[thought|upset]] if "lesser" dwarves | + | *'''Jealous''' - These dwarves will become [[thought|upset]] if their rooms are not better than those of "lesser" dwarves. They don't have to see the rooms to become upset, since they somehow just know such rooms exist. |
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| − | ==Appointed | + | ==Appointed noble selection== |
Appointed nobles are chosen by the player. There are certain social skills that are relevant for each appointed noble's job, and not all dwarves will gain experience in a given skill. In fact, some dwarves will never gain experience in certain skills. This is determined by each dwarf's personal traits, and it is therefore important to select the dwarf with the appropriate set of traits for each position: | Appointed nobles are chosen by the player. There are certain social skills that are relevant for each appointed noble's job, and not all dwarves will gain experience in a given skill. In fact, some dwarves will never gain experience in certain skills. This is determined by each dwarf's personal traits, and it is therefore important to select the dwarf with the appropriate set of traits for each position: | ||
| − | + | ==Bugs== | |
| − | + | Nobles may have impossible [[demand]]s, like cardinal leather items or metal beds. {{Bug|944}} | |
| − | + | (Feel free to arrange an [[unfortunate accident]] for the idiot in question) While no dwarves will get punished for not producing these items, it may enrage the noble. | |
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| − | Nobles | + | Here's a link to the DF forum, where some SCIENCE on Nobles in Squads has been conducted. |
| + | http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113639.msg3467517#msg3467517 | ||
| − | {{ | + | {{D for Dwarf}} |
| + | Although <s>many</s> all players <s>often</s> constantly get <s>angry</s> murderously mad at nobles, wiser players simply thank their lucky stars that [[main:Armok|Armok]] never created congressdwarves. | ||
{{Category|Nobles}} | {{Category|Nobles}} | ||
Latest revision as of 21:11, 1 August 2014
| This article is about an older version of DF. |
Nobles are snotty, good-for-nothing parasites dwarves appointed to office and rule over your fortress. They can make demands and set mandates which get in the way of the running of your fort, and get upset that other dwarves have nice rooms, but can also serve vital managerial roles. At least some of them.
Needs[edit]
Below are the room demands made by each Position. For details on Room values see: Room. It also lists the number of chests, cabinets, weapon racks, and armor stands they demand. Finally it shows the max number of demands and mandates they can issue at any given point.
| Position | Quarters | Dining Room | Office | Tomb | Chests | Cabinets | Racks | Stands | Demands | Mandates |
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| Baron | Decent Quarters | Decent Dining Room | Decent Office | Tomb | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 |
| Bookkeeper | — | — | Meager Office | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Broker | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Captain of the Guard | Quarters | Dining Room | Office | — | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | — | — |
| Champion | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — |
| Chief medical dwarf | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Count | Great Bedroom | Great Dining Room | Throne Room | Mausoleum | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 |
| Duke | Grand Bedroom | Grand Dining Room | Opulent Throne Room | Grand Mausoleum | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 3 |
| Expedition leader | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Hammerer | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Manager | — | — | Meager Office | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Mayor | Decent Quarters | Decent Dining Room | Decent Office | — | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 |
| Militia captain | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Militia commander | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Monarch | Royal Bedroom | Royal Dining Room | Royal Throne Room | Royal Mausoleum | 10 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 5 |
| Sheriff | Modest Quarters | Modest Dining Room | Modest Office | — | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | — | — |
Notes[edit]
This shows various notes for each position taken from the raws.
- # - lists whether one or more dwarves can have this position. Duke/Count/Baron don't have a number listed, but each fortress can only have one.
- Squad - Lists the number and type of dwarf that this position leads
- Spouse - Is this noble's spouse also considered a noble? In 0.34.11, the titles of noble consorts are mere courtesy titles. No privileges are attached to them.
- Heir - Is this individual replaced by an heir when they die? Inheritance doesn't take place in fortresses right now. If a landed noble or monarch dies, that position is permanently erased.
- Appointed By - Which position appoints this person initially? Note that the player actually controls all appointments via the noble screen; this is, in effect, only which dwarf is necessary before the player can make the appointment. Barons aren't directly appointed but elevated (presumably by the mountainhome) upon recommendation of the player. They cannot be replaced via the 'n'obles screen. Once a baron/countess/duke dies, no new noble can be created, either.
- Replaced By - What position replaces this one?
- Pop Req - Minimum population required for this position to become available.
- Wealth Req - Minimum created & exported wealth (respectively) for this position to become available.
- Elected - Is this dwarf elected?
- Lazy - If this dwarf is lazy they won't do any regular work aside from pulling levers, deconstructing walls, and some other things. In all 0.34.xx versions, this appears to be broken, i.e. "lazy" nobles can still be assigned to perform any labor.
- Immunity - Immune dwarves aren't punished for any crimes.
- Econ Exempt - These dwarves don't need money to pay for goods or rooms after the Economy arrives. The economy is currently disabled, so this privilege goes unused for now.
- Military Screen Only - This position is only listed on the military screen.
- Jealous - These dwarves will become upset if their rooms are not better than those of "lesser" dwarves. They don't have to see the rooms to become upset, since they somehow just know such rooms exist.
| Position | # | Squad | Spouse | Heir | Appointed By | Replaced By | Pop Req | Wealth Req | Elected | Lazy | Immunity | Econ Exempt | Military Screen Only | Jealous |
| Baron | - | - | Yes | Yes | Monarch | Count | 20 | 100k / 10k | - | Yes | Yes | Yes | - | Yes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bookkeeper | 1 | - | - | - | Exp.Leader/Mayor | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Broker | 1 | - | - | - | Exp.Leader/Mayor | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Captain of the Guard | 1 | 10:Fortress Guard | - | - | Exp.Leader/Mayor | - | 50 | - | - | - | - | Yes | - | - |
| Champion | 1 | - | - | - | Duke/Count/Baron | - | - | - | - | Yes | Yes | Yes | - | - |
| Chief Medical Dwarf | 1 | - | - | - | Exp.Leader/Mayor | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Count | - | - | Yes | Yes | Monarch | Duke | 20 | 200k / 20k | - | Yes | Yes | Yes | - | Yes |
| Duke | - | - | Yes | Yes | Monarch | - | 20 | 300k / 30k | - | Yes | Yes | Yes | - | Yes |
| Expedition Leader | 1 | - | - | - | - | Mayor | - | - | - | - | - | Yes | - | - |
| Hammerer | 1 | 10:Royal Guard | - | - | Exp.Leader/Mayor | - | - | - | - | Yes | Yes | Yes | - | - |
| Manager | 1 | - | - | - | Exp.Leader/Mayor | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Mayor | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | 50 | - | Yes | - | - | Yes | - | - |
| Militia Captain | 1+ | 10:Militia-dwarf | - | - | Militia Commander | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Yes | - |
| Militia Commander | 1 | 10:Militia-dwarf | - | - | Exp.Leader/Mayor | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Monarch | 1 | - | Yes | Yes | Armok | - | 140 | It's complicated | - | Yes | Yes | Yes | - | Yes |
| Sheriff | 1 | - | - | - | Exp.Leader/Mayor | Captain of the Guard | - | - | - | - | - | Yes | - | - |
Appointed noble selection[edit]
Appointed nobles are chosen by the player. There are certain social skills that are relevant for each appointed noble's job, and not all dwarves will gain experience in a given skill. In fact, some dwarves will never gain experience in certain skills. This is determined by each dwarf's personal traits, and it is therefore important to select the dwarf with the appropriate set of traits for each position:
Bugs[edit]
Nobles may have impossible demands, like cardinal leather items or metal beds. Bug:944 (Feel free to arrange an unfortunate accident for the idiot in question) While no dwarves will get punished for not producing these items, it may enrage the noble.
Selecting Squads which contain Nobles[edit]
Here's a link to the DF forum, where some SCIENCE on Nobles in Squads has been conducted. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113639.msg3467517#msg3467517
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Although many all players often constantly get angry murderously mad at nobles, wiser players simply thank their lucky stars that Armok never created congressdwarves.