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It should probably also be noted on this page that you can hang up stairs off a ledge, but not downstairs, which means building down (without carving stairs into something) is hard. This would really only come up if you were trying to build something above and going down towards (or going down into!) a lake, ocean, lava pool, or sufficiently wide chasm, and avoidable in some of those cases. (Yes, I am trying to build down through ocean right now). --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 19:50, 12 May 2008 (EDT) | It should probably also be noted on this page that you can hang up stairs off a ledge, but not downstairs, which means building down (without carving stairs into something) is hard. This would really only come up if you were trying to build something above and going down towards (or going down into!) a lake, ocean, lava pool, or sufficiently wide chasm, and avoidable in some of those cases. (Yes, I am trying to build down through ocean right now). --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 19:50, 12 May 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | == Tower Guide Showdown == | ||
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| + | The first section of this page duplicates my [[tower guide]]. I know I'm pimping my pages here, but perhaps a link there would make more sense. | ||
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| + | Honestly, I think my version is better. --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 15:15, 19 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | :I think merging the tower page into this one would be a good idea. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 11:01, 20 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
| + | :Oh, it seems there has already been talk about this on [[talk:tower guide]]. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 11:02, 20 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | == 3x3 towers == | ||
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| + | 3x3 towers are more or less worthless, I'll admit, but they're really simple to build. A diagram, each block is a different Z level: | ||
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| + | <pre> | ||
| + | ----- | ||
| + | |000| | ||
| + | | X | | ||
| + | |000| | ||
| + | ----- | ||
| + | |0 0| | ||
| + | |0X0| | ||
| + | |0 0| | ||
| + | ----- | ||
| + | |000| | ||
| + | | X | | ||
| + | |000| | ||
| + | ----- | ||
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| + | Legend: O= wall, X= up/down staircase | ||
| + | </pre> | ||
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| + | Lather, rinse, repeat. Just alternate the two lines of walls, then fill in the gaps when complete. I'm probably not the first one to think of it, but I haven't seen it anywhere. The walls give floors to allow dwarves to stand on during construction. They're useful for buildig guard towers with fortifications (may spread out at top), or an escape route, but not too much else, I'll admit. I use both up and down staircases because at the bottom level you can include storage for supplies for guards, or additional water storage/drainage. | ||
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| + | Feel free to delete if it's not appropriate, I don't care. | ||
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| + | [[User:Erathoniel|Erathoniel]] 22:08, 12 October 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | == Other Mega constructions == | ||
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| + | At the time of this writing, the article begins:<blockquote>There comes a time in every dwarfs life when he says to himself- why not? Be it magma waterfalls, huge castles, skyscrapers, great cathedrals, you can build anything!</blockquote>Then is goes on to explain how to build towers, and just towers, as if that's the only mega construction. This should be put back into a tower guide page. You can't have much of a guide for how to build mega constructions, aside from a few general tips, as they're so varied. I suggest redoing the article, and having it give general ideas for what to do, along with general tips of how to do it, and maybe a few different pictures of completed mega constructions. [[User:DanielLC|DanielLC]] 12:53, 10 November 2008 (EST) | ||
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| + | Big Obsidian Castle anyone? Carved, of course, without constructed walls. | ||
| + | [[User:WFrag|WFrag]] 15:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
| + | :Tip 1: don’t forget about the magma evaporation! When filling the layers with magma you either need to fill it quickly or split layer into separate areas, filling one by one.<small>– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:WFrag|WFrag]]</small> | ||
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| + | Magma Pipe Tower: | ||
| + | I decided to make me a tower. It was something I'd never gotten around to doing though... so I went to the bottom level, excavated a giant region, and am currently draining my magma pipe. As soon as I've gotten it low enough, I will quickly install a tower inside the magma pipe, and allow it to refill. Then, I'll have this random tower sticking out of a magma pipe! --[[User:Waladil|Waladil]] 08:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| + | == D for Dwarf == | ||
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| + | I added "D for Dwarf" to the examples section, because obviously its meant to be a humorous take on insane or near impossible building projects. | ||
| + | --[[Special:Contributions/173.212.2.19|173.212.2.19]] 00:02, 21 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 00:02, 21 May 2010
The example diagrams for building a tower only work if you have a 'floor' (ie, walls from below) at the same width as the tower floor you are building - if you are trying to make a larger room above a smaller one, scaffolding (i prefer floors) will need to be appended to build the corners, because you cannot build a wall diagonally. Having built an inverted pyramid, this is a mildly annoying building concern, and the diagram should reflect the presence of a wall below where you are building. --Squirrelloid 19:50, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
It should probably also be noted on this page that you can hang up stairs off a ledge, but not downstairs, which means building down (without carving stairs into something) is hard. This would really only come up if you were trying to build something above and going down towards (or going down into!) a lake, ocean, lava pool, or sufficiently wide chasm, and avoidable in some of those cases. (Yes, I am trying to build down through ocean right now). --Squirrelloid 19:50, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
Tower Guide Showdown[edit]
The first section of this page duplicates my tower guide. I know I'm pimping my pages here, but perhaps a link there would make more sense.
Honestly, I think my version is better. --Strangething 15:15, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
- I think merging the tower page into this one would be a good idea. VengefulDonut 11:01, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
- Oh, it seems there has already been talk about this on talk:tower guide. VengefulDonut 11:02, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
3x3 towers[edit]
3x3 towers are more or less worthless, I'll admit, but they're really simple to build. A diagram, each block is a different Z level:
----- |000| | X | |000| ----- |0 0| |0X0| |0 0| ----- |000| | X | |000| ----- Legend: O= wall, X= up/down staircase
Lather, rinse, repeat. Just alternate the two lines of walls, then fill in the gaps when complete. I'm probably not the first one to think of it, but I haven't seen it anywhere. The walls give floors to allow dwarves to stand on during construction. They're useful for buildig guard towers with fortifications (may spread out at top), or an escape route, but not too much else, I'll admit. I use both up and down staircases because at the bottom level you can include storage for supplies for guards, or additional water storage/drainage.
Feel free to delete if it's not appropriate, I don't care.
Erathoniel 22:08, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
Other Mega constructions[edit]
At the time of this writing, the article begins:
There comes a time in every dwarfs life when he says to himself- why not? Be it magma waterfalls, huge castles, skyscrapers, great cathedrals, you can build anything!
Then is goes on to explain how to build towers, and just towers, as if that's the only mega construction. This should be put back into a tower guide page. You can't have much of a guide for how to build mega constructions, aside from a few general tips, as they're so varied. I suggest redoing the article, and having it give general ideas for what to do, along with general tips of how to do it, and maybe a few different pictures of completed mega constructions. DanielLC 12:53, 10 November 2008 (EST)
Big Obsidian Castle anyone? Carved, of course, without constructed walls.
WFrag 15:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Tip 1: don’t forget about the magma evaporation! When filling the layers with magma you either need to fill it quickly or split layer into separate areas, filling one by one.– unsigned comment by WFrag
Magma Pipe Tower: I decided to make me a tower. It was something I'd never gotten around to doing though... so I went to the bottom level, excavated a giant region, and am currently draining my magma pipe. As soon as I've gotten it low enough, I will quickly install a tower inside the magma pipe, and allow it to refill. Then, I'll have this random tower sticking out of a magma pipe! --Waladil 08:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
D for Dwarf[edit]
I added "D for Dwarf" to the examples section, because obviously its meant to be a humorous take on insane or near impossible building projects. --173.212.2.19 00:02, 21 May 2010 (UTC)