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40d Talk:Skill
Skill Notes
- Miner
- Allows a Dwarf to strike the earth at a more rapid pace.
- Wood Cutter
- Carpenter
- Mason
- Engraver
- Building Designer
- Weaponsmith
- Bowyer
- Armorsmith
- Metalsmith
- Furnace Operator
- Wood Burner
- Metal Crafter
- Stone Crafter
- Wood Crafter
- Bone Carver
- Gem Cutter
- Gem Setter
- Mechanic
- Fisherdwarf
- Miller
- Thresher
- Grower
- Herbalist
- Brewer
- Cook
- Weaver
- Clothier
- Dyer
- Allows a dwarf to dye with honor.
- Trapper
- Ambusher
- Butcher
- Tanner
- Leatherworker
- Fish Dissector
- Animal Dissector
- Fish Cleaner
- Cheese Maker
- Milker
- Animal Trainer
- Animal Caretaker
- Soaper
- Lye Maker
- Potash Maker
- Glassmaker
- Wrestler
- Axedwarf
- Swordsdwarf
- Macedwarf
- Hammerdwarf
- Speardwarf
- Marksdwarf
- Shield User
- Armor User
- Siege Engineer
- Siege Operator
- Pump Operator
- Swimmer
- Gives you a small amount of hope that this dwarf will not drown.
- Persuader
- Negociator
- Typo in the game: ought to be "Negotiator." (Note: Toady has openly noted to fixing this on his dev log.)
- Liar
- "It's not a carp, it's a gibbon, I swear!"
- Intimidator
- Judge of Intent
- Appraiser
- Organizer
- Record Keeper
- Conversationalist
- Comedian
- Flatterer
- Consoler
- Pacifier
Skill Ranks Notes
- Not Skilled, Dabbling
- Novice
- Named, Titular
- Competent
- Proficient
- etc.
- It's looking like it's the same as before for rank names. --Shades 05:01, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
User Notes and Changes
Renditelitan 22:01, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
- Moved this to the talk page for discussion on what should go on the main skills page User:Alfador. I hope you don't mind. Anyone have ideas on how to categorize the all the skills? Also, would making the list of skills in their place in the game time frame make since? Like founding skills vs. town skills?
- It would make sense; Proficient and below are founding skills, Dabbling and anything above Proficient are fortress skills. (Also anything Adamantine-oriented if that's still in.) And of COURSE I don't mind, I'm ecstatic that someone more skilled in wiki format than I took it upon themselves to make something more useful out of my rudimentary list! Alfador 23:02, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
Should we put lists of activities that improve a skill for every skill, or just for the ones that aren't immediately obvious like those new noble skills? --BahamutZERO 16:13, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
I think it's important to enumerate all the activities that give skill, and it would be nice to get numbers on the skill increases for these actions as well. It's especially important to note ALL information for what gives or doesn't give skill points for the new noble skills, but everything is useful. Like, for a miner, do ramps and channels give mining skill? Do floodgates? Does a fisherdwarf get fisherdwarf skill for constructing a fishery? If we can enumerate all possible sources of skill points for a given skill, I think we should definately do so. --Sowelu 16:52, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
- One thing we might also want is a listing of what skills are USED by what job tasks. For example: whatever skill is used by the "Strand Extraction" labor, which presumably fulfills "Extract Metal Strands" manager tasks... well, presumably that's the new version of the old Adamantine skills, Adamantine Smelting having been assumed to have been unified with other smelting skill. But whatever skill that is, it can't be had from the starting screen, and so is not listed here. This will naturally require LOTS of testing on the part of all of us, since we're no longer guaranteed to even have a magma flow in a given region, much less pits and adamantine. --Alfador 10:20, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
- I almost think that that kind of data should be made into a separate list, as well as listed under each skill's individual page. Lets's not clutter this one up that much. Also, anyone FOUND pits/addy yet? I'm almost certain it's too early for that, but one never knows.--Draco18s 05:07, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
- It might be useful to have a table which lists each skill's impact on speed and quality of production. For example, an increase in Mining Skill improves both speed (tiles/tick) and quality (odds of leaving useful material behind). Skill points in woodcutting improve speed but not quality; some of the farm-related tasks like plant processing always produce an identical amount and quality, and can be safely left to be done by dabblers with no impact on productivity.
- Yes, and there's horrible things under it. Possibly also the adamantine-triggered monarch. --BahamutZERO 15:38, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
Should skills be a category?--BahamutZERO 19:43, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
- I made one anyway. --JT 21:31, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
This is too specific
This list is specific to Fortress Mode. It's missing some of the Adventure Mode skills, like Bowman and such, and lists the dwarven names for skills. --JT 21:31, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
administrator
Is there really such a profession? I have been trying to get a dwarf to gain this job title without luck so far. Has anyone managed to do it? VengefulDonut 15:22, 20 December 2007 (EST)
- Yes, my leader got the title Administrator briefly from raising his Organizer skill. However, he became a Clerk once his Record Keeping skill surpassed it. --Doniazade 13:54, 10 May 2008 (EDT)
military skills
Shouldn't the weapon skills be classified under their own color/military profession? A swordsdwarf is not a blue peasant, it's a colored military unit. Or is this only for un-drafted military units? It might confuse a newbie. --DDouble 23:43, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Trader
Dwarves which have Appraise (probably others too) skill is called a Trader. It's written in purple, like administrator. --Someone-else
The four "admin" jobs don't really have a single "super"-profession like the others. A dwarf that has those skills is called either
- Architect (Building Designer)
- Trader (Appraiser) aka the Broker
- Administrator (Organizer) aka the Manager
- Clerk (Record Keeper) aka the Bookkeeper
In that order (I may have Administrator and Clerk the other way around). This means that one with all 4 skills on novice, will be called an Architect. If he only had the bottom 3 skills, he'd be called a Trader. And so on. Sergius 21:19, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
Legendary +#
I thought this was totally unnecessary, and it off-balanced the chart anyway. I left the comment about legendary past the first but got rid of it in the skill chart. If it's not displayed anyway, why bother including it?
--Squeegy
- There is a definite in-game difference between Legendary and Legendary+x, just as there is a difference between all other skill levels. Especially because it isn't displayed in-game, it's critical to document here that actual maxed-out skills require 60% more experience than just "legendary".--Maximus 01:21, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- Well, if you find a way to even the chart, feel free to add it. I just thought it looked bad and wasn't that necessary. --Squeegy
- Luckily, the total number is evenly divisible by three, so, done.--Maximus 11:34, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- Okay, looks much better now. I liked it before because I switch weapons when my guys hit Adept Wrestler, and it's easier to look at it that way. --Squeegy 16:28, 1 November 2008 (EDT)
Split "Skill" & "Profession" into 2 pages?
Some recent (re-)analysis of the code has shown that the Profession of a dwarf has as much influence on moods as skills do - perhaps more, and in a way not previously acknowledged. Typically, "profession" has been considered largely redundant, a confusing add-on that served no purpose, and was merely an echo of "skills" and largely meaningless in the game - no so, apparently.
See this thread in forum: http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=35257.0 (page 2, specifically - 0x517A5D's post that starts "Right then...")
Altho' they're clearly related, they are not at all the same - so should they have separate pages, to reinforce their distinctions? Having professions redirect here could be misleading, or worse. Especially phrases like "Professions" determine only the color of the dwarf..." - clearly false. At the very least, some parts of the current page need to be re-written to reflect that much. --Albedo 00:28, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I propose that rather than two pages we consolidate profession related info (there is very little) into a subsection of the skill page and have profession redirect to that section. VengefulDonut 14:10, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
added "Professions", re-format
"Professions" have been recently found to have more significance than previously thought, so there is ample to deserve its own sub-section. This required some small re-working of "Skills", namely shaping it into a sub-section rather than the dominant article.
I reformatted the excellent professions/skills table into 4 columns, rather than prev. 3, to be more easily readable in a single glance on a smaller (15", 17") monitor. I kept the order of the categories consistent w/ the prev version, which is the order the skills appear in the labor section of any dwarf in DF. Likewise renamed and reformatted the "odd skill/labor" table. --Albedo 04:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
finding dwarves with a specific skill
Each dwarf gets a title based on their highest skill. so your "weaponsmith" gets a mood and becomes a legendary "metal crafter".
Other than looking at every dwarf until you find the one who is listed on the main profile screen as being a "weaponsmith" is there a screen that shows what dwarves have each skill?
ie, currently there is a screen for each dwarf that shows each skill they have. I am after a screen for each skill which shows what dwarf has it. A bit like the millitary screen which shows quickly which dwarf fights with which weapon.
If this is a feature request where should i raise it? GarrieIrons 01:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
- That would indeed be handy. No, not a unified screen, only dwarf by dwarf, and even then not one you can scroll thru - very cludgey. (u, then c, & then g the first time - then back to u & etc. for each dwarf on the list.)
- 3rd party utilities like Dwarf Manager are better, but only relatively. In the forums is a "suggestions" subforum - read directions before posting. --Albedo 02:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)