40d Talk:Well guide

In illustration number nine, "Build the Well", where are the stairs that are in the previous illustrations? Is there a way to remove them?

Tapping a brook

As long as you're on the same z-level as the water, you never need to worry about flooding no matter what the source. So even a river can be tapped that way. Now, if you want/need to drop it a z-level or more then flooding can be a serious issue, even with a brook. --Squirrelloid 17:14, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Interesting, I've had nothing but trouble trying to do this with rivers, and no problems doing it with a brook, even when I drop it down a z-level to provide a given level of the fortress with a well. Just wanted to note another well strategy, as the original article said it was not recommended and/or very difficult to do with a brook, and I've found it easy. JubalHarshaw 23:51, 30 December 2008 (EST)

I have narrowly avoided flooding my fortress with a brook. ('Oh crap, water has pressure' as water starts flowing up out of my well). --Squirrelloid 10:57, 31 December 2008 (EST)

This conversation is bringing "The Sorceror's Apprentice" to mind... :-) --Maximus 23:12, 31 December 2008 (EST)

I have never had difficulty tapping brooks, and I don't use the "out" channel to relegate the flows. Water pressure is only a problem if you drop z-levels. This article smells really suspicious to me. Is there a flag for that? I doubt the validity of this argument. It seems outdated, and agrees with the old data, not the new. --Zchris13 19:54, 21 February 2009 (EST)

Point of the deep well shaft?

Why bother with deep well shafts? When the water on the tile right below the well is less than 4/7 deep, it says "Well dry". I don't really see the point. --Alpha 15:05, 20 February 2009 (EST)

The deep well shaft is for if you are dropping the water any amount of z-levels. If you plan it right, it will work at any z-depth you want it too. Done wrong, and you have no water.--Zchris13 19:54, 21 February 2009 (EST)

But will the well function if the square DIRECTLY below it runs out of water? --Alpha 20:06, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, I often build my wells above deadly underground rivers:

▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ emptyness ▒>.o..o..▒ ▒ natural wall ▒<X XX ▒▒▒ X constructed wall o well ≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈ . floor ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ≈ river

They work just fine. And keep deadly underground creatures out. Although said creatures do sometimes scare the dwarves. --Savok 20:56, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

Pumps

I notice that the article and its discussion make no mention of pumps, which would help control the water taken from a (channeled) brook tile since they "reset" water pressure. Or are we assuming a Luddite's guide? --FJH 20:21, 3 March 2009 (EST)

Meh, it doesn't mention about anything else too. And things like "unless you use floodgates" "You will also want to control the water with floodgates" (not to mention that you better use lever controlled doors) --Koltom 22:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Nostalgia

Is anyone else sad to see the old well guide go (at least the pond draining part)? Despite its questionable tactical suggestions noted above, I liked how it took you step by step through an engineering project, with diagrams and warnings about precautions to take. I found that to be very helpful as a newbie trying to learn how to approach DF. What's left here seems like a mere description that belongs on well and much less guide-like. I vote to undo, but I readily concede that my judgment is clouded by sentimental attachment. --HebaruSan 04:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)