Talk:Werebeast

Verification notes

Re: Werebeast#Infecting_your_entire_fort - verification of some were-beasts too small to trap in cage traps.

• I've no reason to doubt this is true, but the editor sounded like there was an element of doubt, so just wondering if we can get confirmation. Also, a screenshot mentioned in the edit sounds interesting, and would be quite cool to include in the page, which is quite text dense in this section. Alpacalypse (talk) 02:49, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

• Editor here re above post: I tried uploading the screenshot of the wereraccoon, but it won't let me upload files. I doubt external links are allowed in page, so I will post the imgur link here and someone with permission can add it: https://imgur.com/a/F0Y72ZA Scavello (talk) 4:33 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll upload the image. You might not have been able to upload if you hadn't made three edits yet on your registered account. Upon reading some relevant wiki sections, I think the sentence might need some rewording, or further investigation: Supposedly werebeasts are immune to traps due to Trapavoid, rather than size. Do you have any more information on catching the wereracoon? Did you have any webs in the room, or mods installed that might have influenced this, for instance? It might even be a bug. Either way, thanks for commenting and sharing the image. It's an interesting discovery that should lead to even more comprehensive wiki info. Alpacalypse (talk) 15:38, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

I slightly reworded the sentence in question, to reflect the current state of this discussion. Alpacalypse (talk) 17:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

• There were no webs in the room, and I have no extra mods installed that would affect this (better transparency for smooth stone designation is about it really), and that room specifically works with the wereapes I have in my fortress as well, I have already spread the wereape infection to 2 other "volun-dorfs". Also side note, the wereapes, and wereraccoons do not get along at all. Perhaps I will try the wereraccoon again to see if it continues to happen, maybe also setup a trap gauntlet for it to run to see if it triggers any other traps, that the wereapes don't. Scavello 23:41, March 20 2023 (UTC)

• Second test - results: Same sterile test room, no webs, no mods that would interfere, has worked previously with wereapes, wereraccoon was trapped again and did not get a chance to attack the test subject. Scavello 04:22, March 22, 2023 (UTC)

• It would be strange if wereraccoons could not be caught in cage traps due to their (small) size. I do not believe we have the numbers for the werebeast sizes (though they would not be difficult to extract), but all manners of creatures such as crundles and stoats can be caught in cage traps - and those are surely smaller. In other words, the only reason for wereraccoons to be trappable would be for there to either be a mechanic which prevents small creatures to be caught in cage traps, which must in that case be new to v50, or for the wereraccoons to have some other token influencing their interaction with traps. Or it could be a bug of course, or human error. --Voliol (talk) 10:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

A successful transmission of the wereape infection to a "volun-dorf"

• It is very strange because the same setup works for the were apes I have in my fort as well, and I have screen shot seen here. It definitely could be a bug, I just haven't gotten into the nitty gritty details of why yet. But I'm happy to provide any further information for people to try and suss this out. I did check the arena yesterday, but unfortunately, the only werecreatures are werepanthers, and you can't place cage traps.
• Feel free to use this screen shot for the article too Scavello (talk) 21:11, March 24, 2023 (UTC)

• I just learned of a were-chinchilla attack by him getting caught in a cage trap long before reaching the fortress entrance. Don't know how that affects things, but it seems like not all WB get TRAPAVOID. I have screenshot but cannot post because I'm a new forum user. Babaji (talk) 23:52, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Babaji

Page structure

I found myself having trouble finding or accurately referencing sections of this article that were within quite long sections and paragraphs. I took the liberty of restructuring a couple of section headings, and adding a few subsections. It's a bit subjective, so I'm just leaving a note here, in case anyone has any thoughts on this. Alpacalypse (talk) 17:31, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Werebeasts in fortresses update

The Werebeasts in fortresses section could do with some specific information about visitors being able to transform whilst visiting one of your fortress locations.

Adding a werecreature list with sprites.

Anyone think the page would look better with this?

Mammal Werebeasts

Graphic	Werecreature
	Wereanteater*
	Wereantelope**
	Wereape**
	Werearmadillo
	Werebadger
	Werebear**
	Werebeaver
	Werebison*
	Werebuffalo
	Werebull
	Werecamel**
	Werecapybara
	Werecat
	Werecavy
	Werechinchilla
	Werecivet*
	Werecoati
	Werecoyote
	Weredeer
	Weredonkey**
	Wereelephant
	Wereelk
	Werefox
	Weregiraffe
	Weregoat
	Weregopher*
	Werehare
	Werehedgehog
	Werehorse
	Werehyena
	Werejackal
	Werekangaroo
	Werekoala
	Werelemur*
	Werellama
	Wereloris*
	Weremammoth*
	Weremarmot
	Weremole*
	Weremongoose
	Weremonkey**
	Weremoose
	Weremouse*
	Wereopossum
	Werepanda
	Werepangolin
	Werepanther**
	Werepig
	Wereporcupine
	Wererabbit
	Wereraccoon
	Wererat
	Wererhinoceros
	Weresheep
	Wereshrew*
	Wereskunk
	Weresloth
	Weresquirrel
	Weretapir
	Werewarthog
	Wereweasel
	Werewolf
	Werewombat
	Werezebra*

Reptile Werebeasts

Graphic	Werecreature
	Werechameleon
	Weregecko
	Weregilamonster
	Wereiguana
	Werelizard
	Weremonitor
	Wereskink
	Weretortoise**
	Wereturtle

*The animal this corresponds to does not actually appear as a normal animal in Dwarf Fortress.

**This werebeast doesn't correspond clearly to any specific in-game species of animal.

--Zippy (talk) 05:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Sprites are certainly good to have! But I wonder if it might look a bit off by how 'vertical' that table is. It's a lot to scroll through. OluapPlayer (talk) 14:03, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

What if the tables were collapsible? --Zippy (talk) 10:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)