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I reckon I'm allowed to move/edit the contents of my talk page if I want, but for the sake of good practice, if I do clean up anything substatial (especially if it is anything other than me talking to myself), you should be able to find it tidied away into User:Alpacalypse/Discussion archive

Current wiki editing pet projects[edit]

This is unlikely to be reliably up-to-date, but am reserving this section to make notes of anything I have decided to specifically put some focus into contributing to, just in case it might be helpful or of interest to other editors in some way. Have reserved a section below here for comments regarding anything mentioned here, feel free to use it if you are so inclined.

Soul[edit]

Just found out this is a tangible game mechanic, not just an arbitrary term for mental attributes or abstract topic. Decided to make this clearer and add relevant information as I investigate the specifics. Also want to make sure any directly related article content is clear and unambiguous throughout the wiki, if not already.

Personality[edit]

Broad multi-page topic that has got mildly muddled and drifted a bit from conventions for similar topics over time. Editing it all is quite wide remit, so just left a statement of intent on main talk page, and holding off temporarily to allow for raising of any potential suggestions or concerns.

Timestamp: 9 October 2026

Comments re: Pet projects[edit]

Let me know here if you have any feedback/thoughts on my pet projects notes above.

Comments re: Anything else[edit]

Simply adding this heading for myself for readability/structure. Alpacalypse (talk) 19:19, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Don't delete talk page discussions, please[edit]

As you suspected, this edit is not very good form. Talk pages are like a forum; if there's a misunderstanding, clarify it and move on. There's no need to clean up past discussions and deleting other people's comments is generally frowned upon. See here for general talk page ettiquette. The comment you replaced the discussion with is also a bit unclear now; if you think there's an issue with the version template, it's better to demonstrate how to reproduce the bug so that someone can try to fix it. —OddballJoe (talk) 19:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Gotcha. Now you mention it, I shouldn't have needed to be told not to delete someone else's comment. I was really just thinking about how much needless clutter I'd added to the discussion. Thanks for the clarification. Alpacalypse (talk) 19:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Unsigned comments[edit]

FYI, when responding to users who don't sign their comments, it's customary to use {{unsigned}} with their username/ip to make the convo easier to follow. —OddballJoe (talk) 19:01, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Good tip, and now I have a handy reference for the tag usage too, thanks. Also, I appreciate you having a look at that terminology discussion and giving some feedback. I think on one or two points I might have got a bit too "zoned in" on the issue. It wouldn't be a discussion if there wasn't some dialogue. —Alpacalypse (talk) 01:55, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Gender tokens[edit]

Hey, about your recent edits on Soul, just letting you know that male/female are defined in the raws with [MALE] and [FEMALE] tokens. Outside of castes, this can be seen on creatures that are either always-male (such as satyrs) or always-female (like harpies). --DarklingArcher (talk) 10:26, 9 October 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I literally just double checked the creature tags, noticed that, and redacted my note as you were writing this. Silly me was only searching for "gender"/"sex" before. :) –Alpacalypse (talk) 10:33, 9 October 2026 (UTC)

Pages Renaming[edit]

Hi, I want to discuss with you renaming Preferences and Need to "Personality Preferences" and "Personality Need". The reason the "Values" article has the prefix "Personality" is that there is another concept in the game with the same name, referring to an item's trade value. "Goals" and "Facets" inherited their name from the general "Personality traits" article, which also included "Values" and therefore required the clarification that they were "Personality" traits. I see no need to include the name of the parent tab in the names of the sub-tabs; that is essentially like renaming "Wound" to "Health Wounds" or "Work details" to "Labor Work Details." As far as I know, "Personality something" isnt explicitly used anywhere in the game. If you want to turn the "Personality" article into an article about the "Personality" tab acting as a hub that leads to sub-tabs, thats a good idea. However, I dont see a need to rename the sub-tabs because of that. (Furthermore, regardless of whether the articles need renaming, there is certainly no need to update links in every article, since the old name acts as a redirect. That would only make sense if, instead of a redirect, there were a completely new article there - as it was with "Undead" article.) --GeloMor (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on this, the words of encouragement and concern are equally welcome. Will keep your comment in mind for the future. Explanation: In terms of 'ask for forgiveness rather than permission', in this case the edit was hardly critical or urgent, or, as you point out, strictly necessary, so I certainly could have waited longer for feedback for what is structurally quite a high magnitude edit; arguably mostly only of significance to editors rather than general wiki users. As for the specific reasoning, it was based on the disussion history of the personality facet talk page. Version changes over time had lead to the same points you have raised being discussed there. After deliberation, on 28 January 2025 the page was split into three, intentionally following the syntax I've been accounting for. Needs and Preferences also internally share the explicit nomenclature that was the deciding factor for the current convention, but had existed on the wiki from before updates called for the page split, hence the discrepancy. All that being said, without any feedback regarding the move of Need, in the interim I probably should have just done a redirect from the expected convention to the current page, as I have done with Personality preference. I also agree that this should not be a standard convention for every topic with menu tabs, in this case there was established reasoning making it an exception. Sorry for long reply, just wanted to make sure you understood my motivation, whether or not you conclude it was justified. On a more general level:
  • Reasoning for page title consistency around topic: clear convention never hurts, inuitive/easier to link to pages especially if linking to values/traits/needs etc., and lowers chance of editing oversights or inconsistencies that need to be retroactively noticed and corrected.
  • Reasoning for fixing all the links: was happy to do it for the sake of tidyness and conformity, offers passive guidance for future edits, and pre-emptively negates the risk of double redirects in the future.

–Alpacalypse (talk) 13:38, 9 October 2026 (UTC)

Of course, there's always a third option if my inclination towards conforming to a clear page naming convention isn't overly pedantic: Go the other way with the conformity; change the "Personality_<suffix>" pages to match the more common and expected naming conventions used for the most part for other main wiki pages. –Alpacalypse (talk) 13:45, 9 October 2026 (UTC)