v0.31 Talk:Burrow

Cleanup

Pathfinding. What is it doing here? I cleaned up the last bit about 'digging extends burrows.' It doesn't, but I get what the original writer was trying to convey: burrow residents can only mine inside their burrow, burrows can extend past currently dug-out areas and into solid rock, which can then be mined by residents, up to the limits of that burrow. Also, I'm creating a section for "uses for burrows." Of course, there is the civilian alert, we should explain that here. Then there is the current single piece of advice: restricting craftsdwarfs to certain workshops/stockpiles. But there are many more uses for burrows than that. Getting your trader to the depot. Workaround for the nobles bug. Setting up little hidey holes for outdoor workers and getting them into one when the gobbos attack. Urist McSwitchPuller. Any other things? GhostDwemer 23:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Questions

How do I restrict civilian dwarves to a specific burrow? --Markavian 23:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

• Answer: When civilians are added to a burrow [w][c][enter] they are automatically restricted to the burrow's boundaries. --Markavian 09:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
• Answer: You can also restrict civilians to a burrow with an alert state. An active alert specifying a burrow will direct all non-military dwarves to go to that burrow. Doctorzuber 15:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

How do I set civilians to an alert state?--208.81.12.34 15:05, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

If I add a dwarf to a burrow, will he starve when no food is available in that burrow? -Xeiki

• Answer: No. He will head outside the burrow to look for food or drink. 216.110.94.227 17:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
• Nota Bene: He will not be choosy, though. If only water is available in his burrow, he will drink it, possibly impairing his work ability from lack of alchohol. Dwarves will also leave burrows to sleep. --Zombiejustice 19:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

How do I revert to the old military system?

• Answer: You play 40d. Sorry. (Just learn to adapt, the new one is actually pretty cool.) --Zombiejustice 19:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Will a dwarf remain injured, or will he path to a hospital if injured regardless of burrow location? 97.103.188.15 01:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

How do I restrict only animals to a certain burrow? Richards 04:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

• Answer: Animals ignore burrow's, you can't restrict them. They do like meeting areas, cages, and chains though. Or just i -> Pit them into holding room with no exits. --Altaree 14:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Will dwarves cross non burrow territory if two parts of the same burrow aren't connected? If I make a travel burrow containing all the halls/main stair ways, a mason's burrow, and a stone stockpile burrow. Then assign the masons to all three. Will the dwarves take from one burrow, travel through another, and work in the third? (I need a dwarftherapist for burrows...) --Altaree 14:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Digging into walls does not expand the burrow into it as expected. It only does this if you already selected the non-dug out space to be part of the burrow. So it's like an invisible part of the burrow. So, for example, if you selected the entire z-level as a burrow, then everything you dig out would become part of that burrow also. But if you use the mouse to only select a single room to be part of a burrow, digging one or two spaces might be added to the burrow but any further will not.--Lemunde 14:13, August 21 2010 (EST)

I find that they stop acting as if there is invisible burrow after a bit. Is this common or am I somehow deselecting?

Pathfinding

with burrows, and many other game features things often don't quite do what they're supposed to do. There are many open threads about pathfinding issues on the bug tracker right now, so far there doesn't seem to much in the way of clear answers as to what exactly is going on. One tactic that does seem to at least temporarily fix many pathing problems is to save, close the game completely, and reload your save. This is believed to be because of some sort of caching behavior. Doctorzuber 15:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Locking and unlocking a door also fixes pathing. Changing the map like this seems to force the connectivity map to recalculate. Vattic 22:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

The pathing problems were fixed in 0.31.03 Immibis 07:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Does the pathfinding section belong in the Burrow page, or should it have its own? --HammerDave 16:39, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Dwarves path out of burrow

I've noticed quite a few times during the last siege a potential pitfall in using the burrow system. I all my civilians assigned to a large burrow covering most of my fortress. I had dwarves take hauling jobs for items in another part of the fortress, but in the course of going there, they took a path that led them outside their assigned burrow. I made a mistake in that I didn't realize that the only path they had available was through a dangerous area, its possible they would have not gone outside if another but possibly longer path had been available. -99.68.98.63 18:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if the longer, safe path was part of the burrow and the shorter one wasn't. Speed112 22:00, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Possible Bug

I just wanted to see if anyone else has seen this... I was recently trying out the burrow system. After I assigned civilians to my burrow, they started tripping all the weapon traps I had set. Also, for some reason, they all ended up outside. Has anyone else had this problem? Edit: Upon further inspection, a fair number of dwarves managed to get out of my completely sealed fort. I went to great lengths to make certain that there was no way in or out unless I activated a series of bridges. all of these were still in their raised/uncrossable positions.

Define only rooms, or need to define pathing/stairs?

The big question in that article that isn't covered is the most basic.. when you're defining/using burrows, do you need to define the pathing between the blocks you select, or will the AI pathfind between them? Second point, if you DO define a route (to prevent dangerous pathfinding) will they use the route or pathfind outside of it if there is a 'shorter route'? – unsigned comment by Pathaugen

No. Dwarves can and will pathfind between unconnected, or connected, segments of burrow. They won't keep their path within a burrow even if it is the shortest path, unless it happens to be the path they'd pick anyways.

That said, I define "stairs and accessways" as a separate burrow anyways, so my dwarves can perform jobs within them while my fortress is buttoned up (I only use burrows for the "restrict to fort" capability). Also note that routes are something different - they're for your military - just in case you meant actual "routes-following-Notes" routes and not just the word. --DeMatt 21:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

So bottom line.. can't trust burrows to deliver ammo/food/drinks to remote stocks because they may path into danger? Seems strange.. Pathaugen 05:15, 10 November 2010 (UTC)