Editing User talk:Alpacalypse

==Current wiki editing pet projects==

I'm primarily just ordering my thought here; but using the talk page so if you are interested in, or actively working on any of the following - you can drop me a comment if you have any suggestions, ideas, or want to compare notes/make sure we are on the same page. Alternatively, you can let me know if I am working at cross-purposes with any plans you have, or editing you have been doing.

===See Also===
*The original notes below here, lead me to go ahead and make a [[Centralized_Discussion/Changes_to_terminology|Changes to terminology]] centralized discussion. I expect the following to gradually become unrelated to this. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 00:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

===Changes in recent DF versions===

====General issues====
*Address all red links in [[Template:V50_menus]]
*Improve all related pages towards [[Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Quality#Superior|superior quality]]

====Specifics====
*[[Menu]] - Page needs updating with current info and consistency with [[Menu tabs]] and related [[Template:V50_menus|Template]]
*[[Justice]] - Needs updating to reference new menus, all links are currently <small>< [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 19:19, 10 March 2023 (UTC) ></small> or [[fortress guard|practically]]) red, in the context of v50 menus.

===Changes to terminology===
*Update wiki for clarity and accuracy regarding terms that have taken on new meanings recently.

====Specifics====
*[[Symbol]] - ''Mostly completed up to fine level'', but needs better linking/references to existing wiki pages, and editing of those pages where relevant to recent changes. 
:*[[Custom_names_and_symbols#Custom_symbols|Custom Symbols]] - Page created, but probably needs some better page and link structure/reorganisation. 
::* What to do with "Custom symbols" section of [[Custom names and symbols]]? Add to a new [[Names and symbols]] page? Make it's own page similar to [[Fortress name]]? (see "Name" below)
*[[Object]] ([[Talk:Objects|Objects talk]]) - New pages and a lot of small, but significant edits to existing pages (such as "[[Item]]") needed to avoid confusion or add clarity to different uses of words and features relating to [[Object]] and [[Objects]].
*[[Name]] - This is can lead down quite a rabbit hole, the following is just off the top of my head:
:*Complicated by there already being a very comprehensive [[name]] page, which only deals with generated character names.
:*A [[Fortress Name]] page (ditto).
:*The newly created [[Custom names and symbols]] page, which contains 90% of the information on [[Fortress name]].
:*Lack of documentation or references to any other generated or custom names:
::*Seemingly undocumented custom group names (and symbols).
::*Difference between a custom symbol (descriptive) and a custom symbol (badge of office), ''both of which'' can have unique and custom titles.
::*Paucity of references to all other generated names: e.g. sites, artifacts, history generated non-entity related creatures.
:*Terminology between all of this: e.g. name/title/description.
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[[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 19:19, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
==Comments re: Pet projects==
Let me know here if you have any feedback/thoughts on my pet projects notes above.

==Comments re: Anything else==
Simply adding this heading for myself for readability/structure. <small>[[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 19:19, 10 March 2023 (UTC)</small>
== Don't delete talk page discussions, please ==

As you suspected, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki_talk%3AVersions&type=revision&diff=292148&oldid=292138 this edit] is not very good form. Talk pages are like a forum; if there's a misunderstanding, clarify it and move on. There's no need to clean up past discussions and deleting other people's comments is generally frowned upon. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines here] for general talk page ettiquette. The comment you replaced the discussion with is also a bit unclear now; if you think there's an issue with the version template, it's better to demonstrate how to reproduce the bug so that someone can try to fix it. —[[User:OddballJoe|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe|talk]]) 19:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
:Gotcha. Now you mention it, I shouldn't have needed to be told not to delete someone else's comment. I was really just thinking about how much needless clutter I'd added to the discussion. Thanks for the clarification. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 19:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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 I'm primarily just ordering my thought here; but using the talk page so if you are interested in, or actively working on any of the following - you can drop me a comment if you have any suggestions, ideas, or want to compare notes/make sure we are on the same page. Alternatively, you can let me know if I am working at cross-purposes with any plans you have, or editing you have been doing.
-====See Also====
+===See Also===
-*The original notes below here, lead me to go ahead and make a [[Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Centralized_Discussion/Changes_to_terminology|Changes to terminology]] centralized discussion. I expect the following to gradually become unrelated to this. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 00:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
+*The original notes below here, lead me to go ahead and make a [[Centralized_Discussion/Changes_to_terminology|Changes to terminology]] centralized discussion. I expect the following to gradually become unrelated to this. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 00:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 ===Changes in recent DF versions===
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 As you suspected, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki_talk%3AVersions&type=revision&diff=292148&oldid=292138 this edit] is not very good form. Talk pages are like a forum; if there's a misunderstanding, clarify it and move on. There's no need to clean up past discussions and deleting other people's comments is generally frowned upon. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines here] for general talk page ettiquette. The comment you replaced the discussion with is also a bit unclear now; if you think there's an issue with the version template, it's better to demonstrate how to reproduce the bug so that someone can try to fix it. —[[User:OddballJoe|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe|talk]]) 19:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 :Gotcha. Now you mention it, I shouldn't have needed to be told not to delete someone else's comment. I was really just thinking about how much needless clutter I'd added to the discussion. Thanks for the clarification. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 19:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
-== Unsigned comments ==
-FYI, when responding to users who don't sign their comments, it's customary to use {{tl|unsigned}} with their username/ip to make the convo easier to follow. —[[User:OddballJoe|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe|talk]]) 19:01, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
-:Good tip, and now I have a handy reference for the tag usage too, thanks. Also, I appreciate you having a look at that terminology discussion and giving some feedback. I think on one or two points I might have got a bit too "zoned in" on the issue. It wouldn't be a discussion if there wasn't some dialogue. &mdash;[[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 01:55, 14 March 2023 (UTC)