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[[Dwarves]] have '''relationships''' amongst each other. These can be seen in detail by going to the dwarf's [[profile]] and then pressing {{k|r}} to take you to their relationships screen. Relationships are usually formed by spending time with another dwarf.  Often, the strongest relationship are between dwarves from the same [[migrant]] wave, despite time spent with dwarves from other waves. Relationships are important because their presence or absence has an important effect on the dwarf in question. Note that when it comes to familial relationships, the dwarves in question do not have to be in your fortress.
 
[[Dwarves]] have '''relationships''' amongst each other. These can be seen in detail by going to the dwarf's [[profile]] and then pressing {{k|r}} to take you to their relationships screen. Relationships are usually formed by spending time with another dwarf.  Often, the strongest relationship are between dwarves from the same [[migrant]] wave, despite time spent with dwarves from other waves. Relationships are important because their presence or absence has an important effect on the dwarf in question. Note that when it comes to familial relationships, the dwarves in question do not have to be in your fortress.
  
Making and talking to friends gives happy [[thought]]s while the death of a [[pet]], friend, [[children|child]] or [[marriage|spouse]] gives unhappy ones. A network of friends and families are happier then individual dwarves, but are more likely to throw [[party|parties]] and make [[child]]ren, and will be much harder-hit when a familiar dwarf dies in an [[ambush]] or whatnot. Getting [[ghost|haunted]] by a familiar dwarf produces a strong negative thought as well.
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Making and talking to friends gives happy [[thought]]s while the death of a [[pet]], friend, parent, [[children|child]] or [[marriage|spouse]] gives unhappy ones. A network of friends and families are happier than individual dwarves, but are more likely to throw [[party|parties]] and make [[child]]ren, and will be much harder-hit when a familiar dwarf dies in an [[ambush]] or whatnot. Getting [[ghost|haunted]] by a familiar dwarf produces a strong negative thought as well.
  
 
== Types ==
 
== Types ==
 
The following is a list of known relationships, listed in the order they will appear on the screen (and thus their importance):
 
The following is a list of known relationships, listed in the order they will appear on the screen (and thus their importance):
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*'''Spouse''' - [[Marriage|Married]] dwarves are spouses of one another, and will share a [[bed]] and produce children (the happier the couple, the more ([[Marriage|often?]]) children). Dwarves only ever marry once.
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*'''Lover''' - Lovers are basically dwarven pairs, unmarried but getting there. Like spouses, dwarves will only ever have one lover, and do not switch lovers even if their lover dies. Dwarves who are lovers and that spend enough time chatting may marry, at which point they will switch over to one bed for two and start producing children.
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*'''Child''' - Any [[child]]ren that the dwarf parents are the object of their attention. Babies are absolutely useless in fortresses (and a burden if the dwarf in question is a good candidate for the [[military|draft]]), and children do little besides throw [[party|parties]] and distract their parents, but their death causes a very strong bad [[thought]]. Note that adult children are still children in the eyes of their parents, and that children do not necessarily appear in your fortress.
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*'''Parents''' - If the dwarf has known parents, they will appear here.
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*'''Grandparents''' - Like known parents. They're separated into "paternal" and "maternal".
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*'''Sibling''' - If the dwarf in question has siblings, they will appear here. Like children, they do not necessarily have to be in the fortress.
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*'''Deity''' - Ye olde dwarven [[deity|god]]s are the most important non-familial relationships for a dwarf. Worship is currently a mostly unimplemented feature; although dwarves can have different levels of worship ("faithful", "casual", and "dubious"), they do not have much effect on the dwarves in question, as such things as temples and priests are non-existent (in Fortress mode), limiting their appearances to fine artwork produced by the dwarf in question (and only a small part of the time at that). Note that cursed creatures are ''always'' dubious worshipers of their deities, making this relationship an important sign of a [[vampire]]. Some dwarves don't worship any deities.
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*'''Object of Worship''' - Dwarves tend to worship [[megabeast]]s that have attacked a settlement, most likely out of fear. This relationship is for now only aesthetic purposes, and does not seem to change the behavior of the dwarf and the megabeast if the worshipper meets the worshipped.
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*'''Friend''' - Dwarves that idle near other dwarves and/or have high [[social skill]]s tend to develop [[friend]]s. Making a friend takes some effort on the part of the dwarf, and happens most often within individual waves. [[Personality]] plays a part as well. Making friends causes a happy thought, as can be expected, and the death of friends causes unhappy ones. Lovers develop from a dwarf's pool of friends.
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*'''Grudge''' - [[Grudge]]s are the opposite of friendships, and tend to develop between dwarves of conflicting personality traits. Sometimes it is possible to have your starting dwarves form grudges even before they arrive at the new fortress location. Making a grudge causes an unhappy thought, but ironically, the death of a grudgee actually causes a bad thought as well.
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*'''Long-term Acquaintance''' - Long-term acquaintances are dwarves that are familiar with one another, but not yet friends. The death of an acquaintance does not produce a fun thought however the lose's occurrence. At [[embark]], the seven starting dwarves will each be long-term acquaintances or friends with each other.
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*'''Passing Acquaintance''' - Passing acquaintances are dwarves that are familiar with one another, but just barely. As long term acquaintances do not produce a bad thought, passing ones do not either. If an acquaintance does not make contact with the dwarf over a time, they will be forgotten, absent from the relationships screen.
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==Other Familial Relationships==
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Dwarves can also have '''Uncles''', '''Aunts''', '''Nieces''', '''Nephews''' and '''Cousins''' listed as relationships. They do not appear to take special interest in the wellbeing of such relations. Migrants with long lists of such "extended family" are typically well-connected historical personalities, but expansive relative lists of this type also commonly appear when children in a fort manage to grow up to adulthood, marry and have children of their own.
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As historical personages of special importance, [[Monarch]]s frequently immigrate with a large number of distant relatives listed.
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==Making Friends==
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Over time, dwarves who spend time idling near each other will begin to form friendships and grudges.  This happens through 'chats'.
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Two dwarves who are standing on the same tile, or adjacent tiles, may decide to chat if they are idle.  Dwarves who are busy eating, drinking, or doing any job, will not chat with one another.  This has the <s>interesting</s> amusingly realistic effect that two dwarves who work side by side for years may barely know each other, or even not at all.
  
*'''Child''' - Any [[child]]ren that the dwarf parents are the object of their greatest attention. Babies are absolutely useless in fortresses (and a burden if the dwarf in question is a good candidate for the [[military|draft]]), and children do little besides throw [[party|parties]] and distract their parents, but their death causes a very strong bad [[thought]]. Note that adult children are still children in the eyes of their parents, and that children do not necessarily appear in your fortress.
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As two dwarves accumulate these chats, they will form opinions of each other, based on a 'compatibility' score. Dwarves who like similar things (such as [[elephant]]s), have the same skills (such as two miners), or who have similar personalities will form friendships. These begin as passing acquaintances, who will then become long-term acquaintances (if the two aren't too compatible, but not too incompatible) or friends (if the two dwarves are compatible enough). Dwarves who are too incompatible may instead form grudges. Currently, only vastly different [[personality|personalities]] (such as a confident, selfless dwarf vs. a nervous but arrogant one) cause this, as differences in likes or skills don't hurt a dwarf's opinion of another. Changes in a dwarf's skill set can thus cause their opinions of another dwarf to change, potentially removing old grudges. Dwarves who don't chat enough may lose acquaintances over time.
*'''Spouse''' - [[Marriage|Married]] dwarves are spouses of one another, and will share a [[bed]] and produce children (the happier the couple, the more children). Dwarves only ever marry once.
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*'''Lover''' - Lovers are basically dwarven pairs, unmarried but getting there. Like spouses, dwarves will only ever have one lover, and do not switch lovers (at least, not so long as the other dwarf is alive). Happy lovers will try to get married, at which point they will switch over to one bed for two and start producing children.
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Dwarves who are compatible enough, and who chat enough, can become lovers. In order to be eligible for this, a dwarf has to be an adult, not be too closely related to their new friend, and have no other spouse or lover (even dead!). Lovers who continue to have enough opportunities to chat will eventually get married.
*'''Sibling''' - If the dwarf in question has siblings, they will appear here. Like children, they do not necessarily have to be in the fortress.
 
*'''Deity''' - Ye old dwarven [[deity|god]]s are the most important non-familial relationships for a dwarf. Worship is currently a mostly unimplemented feature; although dwarves can have different levels of worship ("faithful", "casual", and "dubious"), they do not have much effect on the dwarves in question, as such things as temples and priests are non-existent, limiting their appearances to fine artwork produced by the dwarf in question (and only a small part of the time at that). Note that cursed creatures are ''always'' dubious worshipers of their deities, making this relationship an important sign of a [[vampire]].
 
*'''Friend''' - Dwarves that idle near other dwarves and/or have high [[social skill]]s tend to develop [[friend]]s. Making a friend takes some effort on the part of the dwarf, and happens most often within individual waves. [[Personality]] play a part as well. Making friends causes a happy thought, as can be expected, and the death of friends causes unhappy ones. Lovers develop from a dwarf's pool of friends.
 
*'''Grudge''' - [[Grudge]]s are the opposite of friendships, and tend to develop between dwarves of conflicting personality traits. Sometimes it is possible to have your starting dwarves form grudges even before they arrive at the new fortress location. Making a grudge causes an unhappy thought, and the death of a grudgee causes a thought as well, although it is not yet known if this is a happy one.
 
*'''Long-term Acquaintance''' - Long-term acquaintances are dwarves that are familiar with one another, but not yet friends. It is unknown if the death of an acquaintance makes a dwarf any sadder.
 
*'''Passing Acquaintance''' - Passing acquaintances are dwarves that are familiar with one another, but just barely. It is unknown if the death of an acquaintance makes a dwarf any sadder.
 
  
==Royalty==
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[[Social skill]]s such as [[broker skills|conversationalist]], [[intimidator]], [[pacifier]], [[comedian]], [[negotiator]], [[flatterer]], [[consoler]], [[persuader]], or [[judge of intent]] play no role in forming relationships.
There are several additional special relationship listed for the [[king]]/queen and their [[King consort|consorts]]. The dwarves listed in these relationships are all familial and generally not present in the [[fortress]]. These are the Uncle/Aunt, Cousin, and Paternal & Maternal Grandparents
 
  
==Influences==
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It is possible for two dwarves to have different opinions about each other. For example Urist can treat Bomrek as a long-term acquainted buddy while Bomrek counts Urist as a barely recognised person.
It is unknown how much of a role [[social skill]]s such as [[broker skills|conversationalist]], [[intimidator]], [[pacifier]], [[comedian]], [[negotiator]], [[flatterer]], [[consoler]], [[persuader]], or [[judge of intent]] play a role in relationships, but dwarves with vastly different [[personality|personalities]] (such as a confident, selfless person vs a nervous-but-arrogant one) tend to form grudges, while dwarves with similar personalities will form friendships, or even become lovers. In tests, idling dwarves with high social skills made friends (and grudges) a good deal quicker than unskilled dwarves.
 
  
 
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Latest revision as of 14:49, 23 November 2021

This article is about an older version of DF.

Dwarves have relationships amongst each other. These can be seen in detail by going to the dwarf's profile and then pressing r to take you to their relationships screen. Relationships are usually formed by spending time with another dwarf. Often, the strongest relationship are between dwarves from the same migrant wave, despite time spent with dwarves from other waves. Relationships are important because their presence or absence has an important effect on the dwarf in question. Note that when it comes to familial relationships, the dwarves in question do not have to be in your fortress.

Making and talking to friends gives happy thoughts while the death of a pet, friend, parent, child or spouse gives unhappy ones. A network of friends and families are happier than individual dwarves, but are more likely to throw parties and make children, and will be much harder-hit when a familiar dwarf dies in an ambush or whatnot. Getting haunted by a familiar dwarf produces a strong negative thought as well.

Types[edit]

The following is a list of known relationships, listed in the order they will appear on the screen (and thus their importance):

  • Spouse - Married dwarves are spouses of one another, and will share a bed and produce children (the happier the couple, the more (often?) children). Dwarves only ever marry once.
  • Lover - Lovers are basically dwarven pairs, unmarried but getting there. Like spouses, dwarves will only ever have one lover, and do not switch lovers even if their lover dies. Dwarves who are lovers and that spend enough time chatting may marry, at which point they will switch over to one bed for two and start producing children.
  • Child - Any children that the dwarf parents are the object of their attention. Babies are absolutely useless in fortresses (and a burden if the dwarf in question is a good candidate for the draft), and children do little besides throw parties and distract their parents, but their death causes a very strong bad thought. Note that adult children are still children in the eyes of their parents, and that children do not necessarily appear in your fortress.
  • Parents - If the dwarf has known parents, they will appear here.
  • Grandparents - Like known parents. They're separated into "paternal" and "maternal".
  • Sibling - If the dwarf in question has siblings, they will appear here. Like children, they do not necessarily have to be in the fortress.
  • Deity - Ye olde dwarven gods are the most important non-familial relationships for a dwarf. Worship is currently a mostly unimplemented feature; although dwarves can have different levels of worship ("faithful", "casual", and "dubious"), they do not have much effect on the dwarves in question, as such things as temples and priests are non-existent (in Fortress mode), limiting their appearances to fine artwork produced by the dwarf in question (and only a small part of the time at that). Note that cursed creatures are always dubious worshipers of their deities, making this relationship an important sign of a vampire. Some dwarves don't worship any deities.
  • Object of Worship - Dwarves tend to worship megabeasts that have attacked a settlement, most likely out of fear. This relationship is for now only aesthetic purposes, and does not seem to change the behavior of the dwarf and the megabeast if the worshipper meets the worshipped.
  • Friend - Dwarves that idle near other dwarves and/or have high social skills tend to develop friends. Making a friend takes some effort on the part of the dwarf, and happens most often within individual waves. Personality plays a part as well. Making friends causes a happy thought, as can be expected, and the death of friends causes unhappy ones. Lovers develop from a dwarf's pool of friends.
  • Grudge - Grudges are the opposite of friendships, and tend to develop between dwarves of conflicting personality traits. Sometimes it is possible to have your starting dwarves form grudges even before they arrive at the new fortress location. Making a grudge causes an unhappy thought, but ironically, the death of a grudgee actually causes a bad thought as well.
  • Long-term Acquaintance - Long-term acquaintances are dwarves that are familiar with one another, but not yet friends. The death of an acquaintance does not produce a fun thought however the lose's occurrence. At embark, the seven starting dwarves will each be long-term acquaintances or friends with each other.
  • Passing Acquaintance - Passing acquaintances are dwarves that are familiar with one another, but just barely. As long term acquaintances do not produce a bad thought, passing ones do not either. If an acquaintance does not make contact with the dwarf over a time, they will be forgotten, absent from the relationships screen.

Other Familial Relationships[edit]

Dwarves can also have Uncles, Aunts, Nieces, Nephews and Cousins listed as relationships. They do not appear to take special interest in the wellbeing of such relations. Migrants with long lists of such "extended family" are typically well-connected historical personalities, but expansive relative lists of this type also commonly appear when children in a fort manage to grow up to adulthood, marry and have children of their own. As historical personages of special importance, Monarchs frequently immigrate with a large number of distant relatives listed.

Making Friends[edit]

Over time, dwarves who spend time idling near each other will begin to form friendships and grudges. This happens through 'chats'.

Two dwarves who are standing on the same tile, or adjacent tiles, may decide to chat if they are idle. Dwarves who are busy eating, drinking, or doing any job, will not chat with one another. This has the interesting amusingly realistic effect that two dwarves who work side by side for years may barely know each other, or even not at all.

As two dwarves accumulate these chats, they will form opinions of each other, based on a 'compatibility' score. Dwarves who like similar things (such as elephants), have the same skills (such as two miners), or who have similar personalities will form friendships. These begin as passing acquaintances, who will then become long-term acquaintances (if the two aren't too compatible, but not too incompatible) or friends (if the two dwarves are compatible enough). Dwarves who are too incompatible may instead form grudges. Currently, only vastly different personalities (such as a confident, selfless dwarf vs. a nervous but arrogant one) cause this, as differences in likes or skills don't hurt a dwarf's opinion of another. Changes in a dwarf's skill set can thus cause their opinions of another dwarf to change, potentially removing old grudges. Dwarves who don't chat enough may lose acquaintances over time.

Dwarves who are compatible enough, and who chat enough, can become lovers. In order to be eligible for this, a dwarf has to be an adult, not be too closely related to their new friend, and have no other spouse or lover (even dead!). Lovers who continue to have enough opportunities to chat will eventually get married.

Social skills such as conversationalist, intimidator, pacifier, comedian, negotiator, flatterer, consoler, persuader, or judge of intent play no role in forming relationships.

It is possible for two dwarves to have different opinions about each other. For example Urist can treat Bomrek as a long-term acquainted buddy while Bomrek counts Urist as a barely recognised person.