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The wiki system is set up to autoconfirm a user after 3 days of existence as a registered user. Once that's done, you'll never have to enter a captcha again. (also, it's not possible, even as an admin / bureaucrat to manually add a user to the autoconfirmed group, sorry) --Briess 07:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Contact Info[edit]

I'm on IRC nearly every waking moment. --Briess 20:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


Two dozen consecutive edits? "Preview" just not a possibility?--Albedo 20:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


So, forgive my continuing ignorance, but once the changeover happens, "cv" will then become whatever version 2010 is, right? And if so, how do we then distinguish between redirects appropriate only to the 40d legacy articles (which are currently being "corrected" using CV) and those that should go to the then truly "current version" 2010 articles?--Albedo 21:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

search terms and redirects[edit]

So a redirect chain like Gold bars -> 40d:Gold bars -> 40d:metal is correct, don't change it. Emi

Hi. I'm sure what you meant was to ask "Why did you delete that?", and not presume to lecture me about how redirects work. And my response would be - "Why did you create it?" Because I didn't "change" it, I deleted it - and there's a difference, and a difference in the reasoning behind each.

"Gold bars" is not really a term to link from, just not appropriate for a page title. It's not a term likely to be typed in to the search window, nor is it a wiki-article title in game terms. Gold is a perfectly valid (and existing) search term, and bars are as well, but not in the sense of "gold bars", unless you are constructing horizontal or vertical bars from a single bar of gold ("bars" of gold being distinct from a "bar" of gold, for better or worse). And it's not usually a policy to create redirects, even Search redirects, based on erroneous understandings of the layout of the wiki. (If so, "silver bars", "copper bars", "bismuth bronze battle axe" and "narrow giant cave spider silk trousers" could all be included by some well meaning user based on one User's example - and that's more work than I want. Or any Admin.) More, "gold bars" is plural, which breaks yet another rule. So why, pray, do we need it in the first place? Lastly, if "gold bars" were a valid search or redirect term, I would think it should redirect to either "bar", the item (to clarify what a "bar" is, gold or not), or "gold" (the material, to address that aspect), rather than metal, which doesn't address the actual term, but is only a generally related umbrella article - but that confusion gets back to the reason I deleted it in the first place. I didn't even notice it was you that had created that page, but if I had I would have asked you this before deleting it. So... since we're here, why did you see a need to create it in the first place?

And while we're on the subject, you seem to be fairly enthusiastic about redirecting every game term to cv:game term - even if they are NOT version specific. You may want to slow down before hitting every last one, since things like acronyms and such will then have to be tracked down and returned to mainspace existence. Several in the long, long list on Category:Obsolete seem more than a bit suspect, but I suppose now that it's done only the new version will prove them so or not. --Albedo 02:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree that it's maybe a silly redirect, however, right now I am making sure 
these redirects all work properly

Use some discretion. I saw a page marked N(ew), and it didn't belong. If you recognize it as "silly", then don't go to the trouble to perpetuate it. And allow me to make something else clear that you should understand. Before you replace a page that Admin has deleted, you should ask them "why?" first. Thanks so much for your understanding on that last point.--Albedo 03:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Discretion only slows down serializable tasks like the one I was doing. It's much easier to follow the 
same pattern over and over and then go back and do all the stuff necessary to remove a silly redirect

So you are going to cover all those "silly" redirects that require it? Reassuring to hear - so long as someone has it covered, no problem then.--Albedo 03:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, because there's no real reason not to have most of these redirects, it's silly to bother  
checking each one before fixing them. If the admins at this wiki are of the "I'm an admin, so my 
word is law" attitude, I'm not sure this is a place I want to be.

If that were the case, I would have simply acted high-handed and slapped you and not explained my reasoning - but we both know I didn't, so I'm left wondering why you even mention it. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for your reason for replacing the page that an Admin deleted rather than asking them why they did it. Even if you were Admin, do you think that is a good approach to the situation?--Albedo 03:24, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I didn't notice that you had deleted it until after I had recreated it. 

I see.

I ask again if you use either of those other communication methods...
it's much easier to work these things out in real time.

No, sorry. And as Admin of this wiki, I feel it's important to use this format to work these things out. Which (I hope) we've now done. Readya later.--Albedo 17:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Bot edit request[edit]

Could you change all of the non-namespace-specific article links in template pages to use template:L? This is going to be a problem soon. VengefulDonut 11:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

EmiBot's Standing Orders[edit]

Will it do that daily/hourly? B/c new pages are flying up without it. I agree it's overly long, and I thought about that, but it'll only be long for these first few days, until the immediate flurry has calmed a bit, then we back off. Right now, it's amateur hour out there, so any help is a good thing in those directions. (No automatic fixes? Urgh -that's a LOT of manual...) :P --Albedo 20:08, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Again, I find myself waiting on an answer to my question while you focus on your own agenda - still waiting, thanks.--Albedo 21:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion Template[edit]

I explained my reasoning on the talk page, but in short: (1)The mod is not at all notable. (I am not willing to claim a notable mod would not deserve a page on its own, but this is a mod that adds 4 creatures and no one talks about - hardly deserving of a page). (2) There is only one relevant piece of information about this mod - where it can be found. (3) The page doesn't even include that information, and is thus useless. (4) A link to the mod on DFFD or its forum thread, and a very short blurb ("adds 4 new mega beasts") should be added to a general mod page if the mod is going to have a presence on the wiki. --Squirrelloid 05:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, sure, i can do that. I honestly just took a stab in the dark that deletion was the right template, and didn't actually know there were options... la la la? --Squirrelloid 06:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


I wasn't sure who to mention this to, and I apologize if it has already been noted, but this template is in use on 40d pages while the link built into the template for construction links to the "2010" namespace. Not sure what the best way to fix it would be, as I assume that the template will continue to be used. --Soy 16:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into that! However, it looks like this is going to be an issue with a lot of the existing templates that are used across both versions. I think I see what your fix does and if I get some free time this evening I would be happy to try to update what I can find unless you can think of any negative impact it would have. -- Soy 19:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


Yeah, I spoke before I read his talk page. And I remembered it as CMD. And he's right in that that's how it "should" be - the fact that it's not how it is in-game just an awkward DF reality. Altho', I see it as a style issue, not a coding issue.--Albedo 02:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I probably still would have argued for Cmd with a redirect from CMD.

That's not an issue to take up over one page - that's a global style issue, and would change the established, existing guidelines on Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Community_Portal. (Not that I wouldn't mind seeing some change, but (unsurprisingly) mine are style-based critiques.) --Albedo 02:39, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


Thanks! :) Mason (T-C) 01:39, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


my firewall is dumb on windows, so I can't get on IRC, and I don't want to spend 3 hours figuring it out :( --Briess 04:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

It is. It took me about a day to figure out how to unblock port 80 >< --Briess 06:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Ban required[edit]

Please ban
Thank you very much =)
Gretings --Used 08:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Also --Quietust 16:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Even better: semi-protect Dwarf Fortress Wiki talk:Centralized Discussion‎ so that only logged-in users can edit it. --Quietust 16:25, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Easiest of all: just go to Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Spamreport‎ and ban all of the bots listed. Whenever another one shows up, I'll let you know. --Quietust 21:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Personally, i would've gone for a template that marks an ip, or user. Maybe like it being called UserReport, or Report, and then people could do the template thing to report a user. Not sure how that could be coded in, but it could allow administrators to be more warned and prepared to provide a look at the ip. To be honest, all these spambots are just strange. Also, deja vu, i could've sworn this happened in the exact same way before. Maybe another wiki... --Hugna 22:47, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Bug in rate script[edit]

There's a bug in User:Emi/review.js - it's always putting the exact same timestamp: "08:00, 22 May 2010 (UTC)". --Quietust 23:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Can't believe I didn't notice that before. It's fixed now. :) Emi [T] 21:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

The rating script stopped working for me. Could have something to do with maintenance? --MathFox 16:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Specifically, it gets to "Getting token..." and then seems to hang. --Quietust 17:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh, API probably wasn't re-enabled. Gotta wait for Briess on this one. Emi [T] 19:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Broken quality tags[edit]

The quality tags are no longer showing up in the right place - they show up in the upper-left corner of the article body (just below the title) instead of the upper-right corner of the page (aligned with the title). --Quietust 23:15, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Currently quality tags show up in the upper-right corner for me. --Another 10:57, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, they were stealth-fixed shortly after I posted this comment (and the reply was posted on my own user page rather than here). --Quietust 12:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Confirm e-mail address throwing and error[edit]

I got the following when trying to confirm my email address:

Confirm e-mail address

Dwarf Fortress Wiki could not send your confirmation mail. Please check your e-mail address for invalid characters.

Mailer returned: mailer error

Thanks for your time and effort. --Jwest23 14:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Main page is unavailable[edit]

Does no one uses it?

I'd like to add that changing the version and creating the new Mirrors and Release Information pages don't work and show red links. Nvm, it works now --Dorf2

The Grimoire of Armok[edit]

Hey, is the topic this is based on.

essentialy, were going to try make a Grimoire of Armok, and we need an online page for it to be stitched together and to eventualy host the completed version, do you mind if i use the Magma wiki? its a community work in progress, so i hope it can have a place on here.

Best regards: Karakzon

also whats with the 12:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC) thing?
I'm not completely sure if this is the sort of thing that belongs on dfwiki, let me get back to you on it, okay? Also, if you type exactly four tildes like ~~~~ it will create a signature that consists of a link to your user page and a timestamp, similar to this -> Emi [T] 04:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

DF2010:Release information/0.31.19 and Template:News/Mirrors/0.31.19[edit]

New version! Updated what I could, but that's stuff I can't. --Gamildum 15:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Rails Project[edit]

I'm experienced with rails (been using it a few years) and am interested in a dfwiki project

JimboOmega 19:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


Went there, browsed around - it seems like a rails backed wiki without any real content (and a few of the familliar "something went wrong" rails pages).

What are you looking for...?


Looks pretty cool. How can I help? My email address is (my user name) @

Can't discover your username and thus email address if you don't sign your post. :P Naros 21:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

User Page Request[edit]

Posting here to request the creation of my user page, per the Site Announcements, primarily as a persistent workspace. Thanks in advance Valkyrie 22:05, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Requesting the creation of my user page. I'm going to use it as a workspace and reference source for details to my projects. Thankyou Kindly. Jamesadelong 18:30 March 28 2011 (EST)

Please allow Mystara to create a user page. I have extensive wiki markup experience and would love to be able to be a part of this community. Thank you. Mystara 23:10, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Dwarven Bathtub[edit]

I, err, don't play the ANSI version. Only tried it once for about five minutes. Ever since then, I've downloaded versions with the graphics pre-installed. So I'm not sure what a Dwarven Bathtub looks like if you use the default tiles? The image is only used on the cleaning page, so it's not like there's a lot to change, though. The only thing I'm sure about is that the ramps are the same in both. Uristocrat 09:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Non-User Page Creation[edit]

I would like a category created called "Flowchart" so as to categorize pages like or

Thank you. Shenzahn 13:31, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

New page request[edit]

A DF2010:Large pot page would be nice. ZCM 03:54, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Can you please enable the creation of new pages for my account. I use to have this ability but somewhere it seems to have disappeared. I was going to add small pages for beekeeping and wax working. Profit 18:14, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Page creation requests[edit]

Can you please create Template:B12Forum & Template:DFFD? I plan on creating up the links to the Bay12 Forums & DF File Depot with these templates. And Template:Release date I plan to use that for release dates on graphic packs & mods. gu1dry • ¢ 10:04, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Still waiting for the pages to be created or to be told "no".... gu1dry • ¢ 21:04, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

User:hapes page[edit]

I would like to put up quantummenace's aquifer piercing method. Can you allow me access to my use page so I can do that? Thanks. Hapes 17:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

New page request[edit]

Could you add a page for magma pistons? I'll add my edits to the magma page for now, but I'm worried I'm going to make that page too cluttered. -Norseman 08:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Yet another new page request[edit]

I would like the DF2010_Talk:Gear_assembly page created, thanks in advance

Labrynth Page?[edit]

I found a labrynth in adventure recently, and went through it, documenting everything along the way.

Perhaps a wiki page devoted to labyrinthes.. hm.. labyrinthi?.. hmph.. would be a good idea?

I took a whole bunch of screenshots and stuff that I could write from.

- acetech09 (0153 UTC Apr 6)

royal jelly page[edit]

I think we need a royal jelly page. I'm however not experienced in making one could someone set up a template?

user page request[edit]

Hello, I'd like a user page please! --Knaveofstaves 14:23, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Created. --Briess 14:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I'd also like a user page, please! Landrus 10:31, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

New Page Request:[edit]

I need this made, please. Thanks! Never mind! Thanks anyways! --ANormalUsername 01:55, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I'm new here :) [[1]]

User Page Request #9001[edit]

Haha sweet I get the 9001st user page!!! User:Pfifo

Need a redirect created[edit]

Danger rooms should probably redirect to Danger room, especially given that there was a link to Danger rooms in Training weapon. (I replaced it with Danger rooms (Links to Danger room))--Cam94509 21:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

User page request[edit]

I reckon I should have a user and user talk page since I've done a few edits and someone might want to discuss them with me. Thanks. Vitriolum 01:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I see to have the ability to do this so I went ahead and did it. --Ral 03:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

search error[edit]

searching for "plant/animal" generates quite a few lines of "Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Unknown modifier 'a' in /var/www/dfwiki/includes/SearchEngine.php on line 1169"

User Page Request for Root Infinity[edit]

I want to have a user page - I've been doing some logic work on the forums (see here for the details so far), and I wish to be able to post designs on my user page temporarily, and/or for the more specialized logic (JK/T/D flip-flops; (de)multiplexers, et cetera. Can you please set this up for me?

Also, is there anything that you want me to do? I like doing minor editing, and also like doing logic-based things.

--Root Infinity 02:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Sidebar broken on Konqueror?[edit]

See here - basically the sidebar is pushed to down below the bottom of the page. --Root Infinity 02:32, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

User Page[edit]

I'd like to upload my tileset with screenshot and make a user page, could you give me permission for that?

Vidumec 19:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Want to Upload Image of World for Worldgen Examples[edit]

I added a world to the worldgen examples page but I don't have permission to upload an image of it. ~~Johnnydigs

User page request[edit]

I'd like to have a user page, please. --Triggs 23:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Me too, please. --Kaleb702 22:10, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Pop-up ad[edit]

Just got a pop-up ad. Since this is the first one I've seen on the wiki, I figured it might be something you're trying to avoid and this one slipped through. The URL for the ad:;GID=15896;SID=100472;CRE=227961984;PLA=327539066;ADI=227961984;;wi.160;hi.600/01?click=;;PAT=/CHI/iview/327539066/direct;wi.160;hi.600/01;SEA=click=

-- Khym Chanur 16:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

It's unlikely to be an adware infection , given that I'm running Linux. -- Khym Chanur 17:26, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

User page request[edit]

It would be really great if you could create my user page. Thanks in advance!

Bionic 19:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

User page request[edit]

Hello there, could you create a user page for me? Tack snälla.

-- Mackeroni the Janitor 11:32, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

"Indent with space" box should be monospaced[edit]

If you indent with text with a space, like this:


It uses a proportional font. However, a lot of pages use it as if it was monospaced, which messes up the diagrams in them. Rather than changing all of them to use a diagram template, it'd probably be easier to change indent-with-space to use a monospaced font. -- Khym Chanur 01:06, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, the problem is on my end. For some reason, my browser doesn't accept the CSS "font-family: monospace;", but wants "font-family: mono;" instead. -- Khym Chanur 02:20, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
I'd accidentally set my browser's monospaced font to be proportional. *smacks forehead* -- Khym Chanur 03:24, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

want to make user page[edit]

Hello, I want to make a user page of me. Please kindly tell me the procedure to create a user page.

(another) User page request[edit]

Just a redirect to the *other* page by the same name, perhaps? Armok 01:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC) (why was this name not taken yet? I mean, really...)

cool Forgotten Beast screeny[edit]

"The Forgotten Beast Usa Luralutesh has come! A huge blob of vomit. It has a long hanging tail and it undulates rhythmically. Beware it's poisonous vapors!" Give me a yell for a copy to put on wiki. --Yellow

I Am Familiar With Rubu on Rails[edit]

I'm familiar with Ruby on Rails and would love to get involved in any sort of project to hone my skills.

I am also an avid Dwarf Fortress fan ( :P Ok, so that much was probably already obvious) and would love to work on a project to contribute to the community. :-)

Burlingk 03:32, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


Hi Emi - I'd like to start a page at Bloodline:Ugogmomuz to maintain the back-and-forth story for a bloodline game. Would you be able to set that up? Thank you! --Doom Unicorn 19:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

New page[edit]

Hi, I'm making more tilesets and I'd like to be able to upload them, and screenshots if possible.


Ddw 11:56, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Request for a user page[edit]

Hello there, I need a userpage to be created and saw the announcements. DrNightKOT DrNightKOT 14:35, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Database dump?[edit]

Is there a complete db dump for this wiki, for offline use? Where would I find it? Hackworth 14:44, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Request for a user page[edit]

Hello, a user page would be much appreciated. Thank You, Krg. Krg 21:28, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

User page[edit]

..and one for me as well, please, Thanks! UristMcDorf 07:00, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Dwarf Fortress Talk[edit]

I've just noticed that this particular page has been deleted previously for being an orphan. Since I feel that the official podcast certainly deserves a page, and should be easily linkable to due to containing information, I wonder what the policy on orphans is - simply that no pages link there, or too few links? I've previously added a few links to Dwarf Fortress Talk in an article and an article draft not knowing it had been deleted, and haven't found anything under the deletion policy regarding orphans.
Knight Otu 07:32, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. I think I can come up with something, but I guess I'll be drafting up the page first.
Knight Otu 21:36, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Update Problem[edit]

Chrome doesn't seem to be taking the update very nicely. It's downloading all the links as .gz files. 08:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, this has been a big problem for me as well. It looks like the people at Reddit had a similar bug for a while, but then fixed it; unfortunately, I haven't been able to find out how. Temporarily disabling any Chrome extensions and/or Avast's shields has been a workaround for some people, though. --Igfig 18:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Visual Preferences[edit]

Is there any possibility to revert back to the old look? I hate how it now looks like Wikipedia, but there's no other options in the preferences :c Or at least move the search box to it's proper place, please? Or better, tell me how to do it myself, that would be the best option. --Haspen 20:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Error on main page[edit]

The main page fails to load properly; most of the page loads fine, but the title is simply "<databaseerror>" and the page content is "<dberrortext>". There is also some crazy text at the top of the page, replacing the two rightmost buttons' text. Using Chrome 15.0.874.106 on Windows XP. 21:46, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Bit more: the crazy text on the buttons reads "&lt;vector-view-viewsource&gt;". Both buttons still link to the "edit" and "history" pages correctly, and only the main page is affected. 21:50, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any problems here - perhaps it's already been fixed. --Quietust 03:53, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

It seems to have been fixed nao...Thankyou, mystery wiki fixie person! :D 17:14, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

May I please get a page created?[edit]

I would appreciate it if you would create apage titled Adventure Mode: Spells n' Fun for my mod LoRoWil 16:30, 11 November 2011 (UTC)LoRoWil

Problem with the new layout.[edit]

can you put the searchbox back to where it was?

or at least copy it over there?

Personality_Traits sync to Therapist[edit]

Is there anyway to add another column to the Wiki table above to list traits as they are listed in Therapist, for clarity? Example: FRIENDLINESS(wiki) vs FRIENDLY(therapist) EXCITEMENT_SEEKING(wiki) vs THRILLSEEKER(therapist) ASSERTIVENESS(wiki) vs LEADERSHIP(therapist)

Ignore this if its been mentioned or meta changes will void the efforts. Sincerely, Knutor

I would argue that Dwarf Therapist is what should be updated to match the wiki, since the names on the wiki come directly from Dwarf Fortress itself (specifically, the tokens that can be specified in the raws). --Quietust 03:33, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Argue the point all you want. But all that I sought here was another column for clarities sake. Many players don't play DF, without Therapist, why penalize them all because a Dev is asleep on the job. -Knutor

New page?[edit]

I'd like to add redirects for Ticks and maybe Tick to point to Time.

Iknowyourider 21:34, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.17 Download Problem[edit]

Hi, ever since you upgraded to 1.17 (last couple of weeks or so?), every time I go to a new page, there is a 60% chance that my browser will try to "download the page" (it appears in the current downloads bar at the bottom of my chrome browser). It is really irritating and is probably taking up hard drive space. Thank you very much for your attention to this problem. The wiki has been immeasurably helpful to me, and I trust you to remedy this so it may continue to be helpful in the future :) -Bennerman 17:07, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

By any chance are you using Avast antivirus? --Quietust 21:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
As a matter of fact, I am. Why do you ask? --Bennerman 23:06, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
See this forum thread - apparently, it's a bug with Avast. --Quietust 01:39, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
I am encountering the same problem, about 50% chance of downloading a .gz file instead of opening a page. Opening the .gz files (~10kb) shows a file as big as 168mb, which shows no content. I am using MS security essentials. After getting a .gz download, other page requests seem to hangup for a while (saving this page gave me 3 downloads before actually saving) --Sj 13:08, 7 Januari 2012 (CET)

Why are there no skins except default Vector?[edit]

I personally really like 'Simple' skin, present at every MediaWiki-powered site I visit. AFAIK, the default skin set is constant among these sites, so why not here? :(