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{{Skill | {{Skill | ||
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| skill = Climber | | skill = Climber | ||
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| job name = None | | job name = None | ||
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| − | Climbing requires at least one free body part with the {{token|GRASP|body}} tag (usually a hand). Some creatures such as [[cat]]s and [[giant cave spider]]s have a {{token|STANCE_CLIMBER}} tag and use their {{token|STANCE_CLIMBER}} parts (legs) instead. | + | '''Climber''' is a [[skill]] which allows a [[creature]] to climb. Higher levels improve the chances of successfully stopping the "In flight" status (falling, jumping or being knocked back) by holding onto something and decrease the chance of losing hold when climbing. In [[fortress mode]], [[dwarves]] will not climb over [[wall]]s or [[tree]]s as part of normal pathing from one job to another. However, they may attempt to climb if stuck in a location (for example, if they've dug themselves into an inescapable channel) or chased by an enemy. |
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| + | Climbing requires at least one free body part with the {{token|GRASP|body}} tag (usually a hand). If a creature has the {{token|CANNOT_CLIMB|creature}} tag, then it cannot climb, even if it has free grasp parts. Some creatures such as [[cat]]s and [[giant cave spider]]s have a {{token|STANCE_CLIMBER}} tag and use their {{token|STANCE_CLIMBER}} parts (legs) instead. | ||
Starting climbing is not possible while prone, but "In flight" and "In air" statuses override proneness. | Starting climbing is not possible while prone, but "In flight" and "In air" statuses override proneness. | ||
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== Climbing surface == | == Climbing surface == | ||
| − | Climbing block walls (even at floor level) and attempting to stop flight by grabbing onto anything will improve climbing skill regardless of success. | + | Climbing block walls (even at floor level) and attempting to stop one's flight by grabbing onto anything will improve climbing skill, regardless of success. (Climbing trees, rough-hewn natural stone, soil, or constructions made of raw material is easiest and is worth 5 exp when attempting to grab while flying. Climbing block walls is harder, but possible, and is worth 5 exp when climbing and 10 exp when attempting to grab while flying.) |
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| − | Climbing trees, rough-hewn natural stone, soil, or constructions made of raw material is easiest and is worth 5 exp when attempting to grab while flying. | ||
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| − | Climbing block walls is harder, but possible, and is worth 5 exp when climbing and 10 exp when attempting to grab while flying. | ||
Climbing smoothed natural stone walls is impossible, but smoothed pillars can be climbed. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=100851.msg4574863#msg4574863] | Climbing smoothed natural stone walls is impossible, but smoothed pillars can be climbed. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=100851.msg4574863#msg4574863] | ||
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Cast [[ice]] is easily climbed, even when 'straight' (smoothed) or carved into [[fortification]]s. | Cast [[ice]] is easily climbed, even when 'straight' (smoothed) or carved into [[fortification]]s. | ||
| − | Climbing any protruding floor is impossible. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=100851.msg4970315#msg4970315] | + | Climbing any protruding floor (or raised drawbridge) is impossible. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=100851.msg4970315#msg4970315] |
Climbing saplings to gain 1 Z-level is possible. | Climbing saplings to gain 1 Z-level is possible. | ||
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z+0 →g█__ | z+0 →g█__ | ||
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| − | Goblins don't get in, dwarves don't get out. This works because you can't hold onto the side of a floor tile (or more technically, the air above it.) No tile may be held from the bottom, with the sole exception of tree branches. | + | Goblins don't get in, dwarves don't get out. This works because you can't hold onto the "side" of a floor tile (or more technically, the air above it.) No tile may be held from the bottom, with the sole exception of tree branches. |
| − | Don't try to substitute | + | Don't try to substitute overhanging walls or fortifications for the floors; they ''can'' be climbed from 1 level below! |
{{diagram|spaces=yes| | {{diagram|spaces=yes| | ||
z+2 →→↘ | z+2 →→↘ | ||
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z+0 →↖█→g | z+0 →↖█→g | ||
}} | }} | ||
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| − | + | A two-tile overhanging wall, however, is a safe overhang: | |
{{diagram|spaces=yes| | {{diagram|spaces=yes| | ||
z+2 __ __ | z+2 __ __ | ||
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z+0 →→g█_ | z+0 →→g█_ | ||
}} | }} | ||
| − | The roof prevents archers from jumping off the wall and charging the enemy. | + | The fortification acts as the 2nd overhanging tile. Note that the roof, above the lower floor tile, prevents archers from jumping off the wall and charging the enemy, and protects them from flying creatures. |
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| + | Safe miminalist bars: | ||
| + | {{diagram|spaces=yes| | ||
| + | z+2 | ||
| + | z+1 ‼_ | ||
| + | z+0 →→g█_ | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | Because the bar is a building, it has no grabbable surface area on the side to lift one up by, though beware enemy archers. Additional fire-safety can be granted by using ash bars. | ||
Creatures cannot jump up z-levels. They ''can'' jump straight through fortifications while hanging on the side, although not necessarily will always.{{bug|8160}} | Creatures cannot jump up z-levels. They ''can'' jump straight through fortifications while hanging on the side, although not necessarily will always.{{bug|8160}} | ||
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z+0 →↖█→g | z+0 →↖█→g | ||
}} | }} | ||
| − | Lastly, always be wary of | + | |
| + | Lastly, always be wary of [[tree]]s;it goes without saying that they are the enemy of dwarfkind. Trees can be used by invaders as siege towers to leap onto your walls, therefore it follows that a paved road around your walls, or digging out the [[Tree#Growing_trees|z-level below the area]], are effective ways of holding back the wooden menace. | ||
== Adventurer mode == | == Adventurer mode == | ||
Adventurers with a free, working grasp can climb by {{k|h}}olding an adjacent wall (possibly offset by 1 z-level above or below) or tree branches 1 z-level above. This initiates the "Climbing" status, which allows you to move in any direction relative to the wall, including straight up and down with {{k|<}} and {{k|>}} or diagonally upwards and downwards with {{k|Shift}}-direction and {{k|Ctrl}}-direction, respectively. Any movement prompts for which surface to climb to next; choosing a surface on a different z-level moves you to that z-level even if you did not move diagonally upwards or downwards to begin with. Adventurers cannot initiate climbing while on the ground (meaning you cannot prop yourself up against a wall in one final, daring stand), though you can initiate climbing while [[Swimmer|swimming]]. | Adventurers with a free, working grasp can climb by {{k|h}}olding an adjacent wall (possibly offset by 1 z-level above or below) or tree branches 1 z-level above. This initiates the "Climbing" status, which allows you to move in any direction relative to the wall, including straight up and down with {{k|<}} and {{k|>}} or diagonally upwards and downwards with {{k|Shift}}-direction and {{k|Ctrl}}-direction, respectively. Any movement prompts for which surface to climb to next; choosing a surface on a different z-level moves you to that z-level even if you did not move diagonally upwards or downwards to begin with. Adventurers cannot initiate climbing while on the ground (meaning you cannot prop yourself up against a wall in one final, daring stand), though you can initiate climbing while [[Swimmer|swimming]]. | ||
| − | Pressing {{k|h}} (or {{k|s}}) while climbing immediately removes the "Climbing" status, causing you to fall. Doing so 1 or 2 z-levels from the ground (or water) is typically safe, though much higher up can have [[Gravity|consequences]]. When falling or "In flight" for any other reason, passing by a graspable surface opens a menu allowing you to attempt to stop your fall by latching on to the surface. | + | Pressing {{k|h}} (or {{k|s}}) while climbing immediately removes the "Climbing" status, causing you to fall. Doing so 1 or 2 z-levels from the ground (or water) is typically safe, though much higher up can have serious [[Gravity|consequences]]. When falling or "In flight" for any other reason, passing by a graspable surface opens a menu allowing you to attempt to stop your fall by latching on to the surface. |
Climbing most walls and trees neither requires nor grants any skill in climbing. As noted above, the exceptions to this rule are climbing block walls, e.g. most walls of generated buildings, and attempting to stop your flight by grabbing on to any wall or tree. Accordingly, the quickest way to train climbing is to shimmy around the rooftop of a 2 or more z-level tall structure in a [[hamlet]] or [[town]]. | Climbing most walls and trees neither requires nor grants any skill in climbing. As noted above, the exceptions to this rule are climbing block walls, e.g. most walls of generated buildings, and attempting to stop your flight by grabbing on to any wall or tree. Accordingly, the quickest way to train climbing is to shimmy around the rooftop of a 2 or more z-level tall structure in a [[hamlet]] or [[town]]. | ||
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==Bugs== | ==Bugs== | ||
| − | * Dwarves climb trees and refuse to climb down until they die of thirst.{{bug|9252}} With timely intervention, they can be saved by cutting down the tree or building stairs alongside a branch. | + | * Dwarves climb trees and refuse to climb down until they die of thirst.{{bug|9252}}{{bug|11284}} With timely intervention, they can be saved by cutting down the tree or building stairs alongside a branch. |
| + | * Adventurers can be mostly unable to climb if they woke up stunned.{{bug|8543}} Work around is to wait an hour after waking up stunned. | ||
{{skills}} | {{skills}} | ||
| + | {{Category|Fortress defense}} | ||
Latest revision as of 21:45, 20 January 2023
| This article was migrated from DF2014:Climber and may be inaccurate for the current version of DF (v50.14). See this page for more information. |
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Climber is a skill which allows a creature to climb. Higher levels improve the chances of successfully stopping the "In flight" status (falling, jumping or being knocked back) by holding onto something and decrease the chance of losing hold when climbing. In fortress mode, dwarves will not climb over walls or trees as part of normal pathing from one job to another. However, they may attempt to climb if stuck in a location (for example, if they've dug themselves into an inescapable channel) or chased by an enemy.
Climbing requires at least one free body part with the [GRASP] tag (usually a hand). If a creature has the [CANNOT_CLIMB] tag, then it cannot climb, even if it has free grasp parts. Some creatures such as cats and giant cave spiders have a [STANCE_CLIMBER] tag and use their [STANCE_CLIMBER] parts (legs) instead.
Starting climbing is not possible while prone, but "In flight" and "In air" statuses override proneness.
To climb a surface, it must be able to be held from the side. Floors cannot be climbed, nor can surfaces, with the exception of tree branches, be held from beneath. Trees and 1 z-level tall cliffs and buildings are always safe to climb. Unskilled climbers will often lose hold when attempting to climb walls (not trees) while "In air" - at least 1 z-level above the floor.
Climbing speed does not depend on stats or skills, but is rather a type of gait. Some creatures (notably giant cave spiders) can climb as fast as they walk. Many kinds of animals are born with Legendary skill in climbing, these normally being either fliers, arboreal, or species found in caverns.
Climbing surface[edit]
Climbing block walls (even at floor level) and attempting to stop one's flight by grabbing onto anything will improve climbing skill, regardless of success. (Climbing trees, rough-hewn natural stone, soil, or constructions made of raw material is easiest and is worth 5 exp when attempting to grab while flying. Climbing block walls is harder, but possible, and is worth 5 exp when climbing and 10 exp when attempting to grab while flying.)
Climbing smoothed natural stone walls is impossible, but smoothed pillars can be climbed. [1]
Cast ice is easily climbed, even when 'straight' (smoothed) or carved into fortifications.
Climbing any protruding floor (or raised drawbridge) is impossible. [2]
Climbing saplings to gain 1 Z-level is possible.
Climbing safety[edit]
Non-climbable walls are as easy as putting a floor jutting out on the side you don't want creatures climbing from.
| z | + | 1 | _ | _ | _ | |||
| z | + | 0 | → | g | █ | _ | _ |
Goblins don't get in, dwarves don't get out. This works because you can't hold onto the "side" of a floor tile (or more technically, the air above it.) No tile may be held from the bottom, with the sole exception of tree branches.
Don't try to substitute overhanging walls or fortifications for the floors; they can be climbed from 1 level below!
| z | + | 2 | → | → | ↘ | |||
| z | + | 1 | ↗ | █ | _ | █ | ↙ | |
| z | + | 0 | → | ↖ | █ | → | g |
A two-tile overhanging wall, however, is a safe overhang:
| z | + | 2 | _ | _ | _ | _ | ||||
| z | + | 1 | █ | █ | _ | █ | █ | |||
| z | + | 0 | → | → | g | █ | _ | _ | _ |
Any combination of floors/fortifications/walls works for the top, as long as they protrude out at least two tiles.
Safe minimalist fortifications:
| z | + | 2 | _ | _ | ||||
| z | + | 1 | ╬ | _ | _ | |||
| z | + | 0 | → | → | g | █ | _ |
The fortification acts as the 2nd overhanging tile. Note that the roof, above the lower floor tile, prevents archers from jumping off the wall and charging the enemy, and protects them from flying creatures.
Safe miminalist bars:
| z | + | 2 | ||||||
| z | + | 1 | ‼ | _ | ||||
| z | + | 0 | → | → | g | █ | _ |
Because the bar is a building, it has no grabbable surface area on the side to lift one up by, though beware enemy archers. Additional fire-safety can be granted by using ash bars.
Creatures cannot jump up z-levels. They can jump straight through fortifications while hanging on the side, although not necessarily will always.Bug:8160
Potentially unsafe:
| z | + | 2 | _ | _ | _ | |||
| z | + | 1 | → | ╬ | ↘ | |||
| z | + | 0 | → | ↖ | █ | → | g |
Lastly, always be wary of trees;it goes without saying that they are the enemy of dwarfkind. Trees can be used by invaders as siege towers to leap onto your walls, therefore it follows that a paved road around your walls, or digging out the z-level below the area, are effective ways of holding back the wooden menace.
Adventurer mode[edit]
Adventurers with a free, working grasp can climb by holding an adjacent wall (possibly offset by 1 z-level above or below) or tree branches 1 z-level above. This initiates the "Climbing" status, which allows you to move in any direction relative to the wall, including straight up and down with < and > or diagonally upwards and downwards with Shift-direction and Ctrl-direction, respectively. Any movement prompts for which surface to climb to next; choosing a surface on a different z-level moves you to that z-level even if you did not move diagonally upwards or downwards to begin with. Adventurers cannot initiate climbing while on the ground (meaning you cannot prop yourself up against a wall in one final, daring stand), though you can initiate climbing while swimming.
Pressing h (or s) while climbing immediately removes the "Climbing" status, causing you to fall. Doing so 1 or 2 z-levels from the ground (or water) is typically safe, though much higher up can have serious consequences. When falling or "In flight" for any other reason, passing by a graspable surface opens a menu allowing you to attempt to stop your fall by latching on to the surface.
Climbing most walls and trees neither requires nor grants any skill in climbing. As noted above, the exceptions to this rule are climbing block walls, e.g. most walls of generated buildings, and attempting to stop your flight by grabbing on to any wall or tree. Accordingly, the quickest way to train climbing is to shimmy around the rooftop of a 2 or more z-level tall structure in a hamlet or town.
Bugs[edit]
- Dwarves climb trees and refuse to climb down until they die of thirst.Bug:9252Bug:11284 With timely intervention, they can be saved by cutting down the tree or building stairs alongside a branch.
- Adventurers can be mostly unable to climb if they woke up stunned.Bug:8543 Work around is to wait an hour after waking up stunned.
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